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For those who think that prophet Mohammad was a pedophile

psychoslice

psychoslice

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FearGod said:
You're annoyed with it but we aren't.

So to that [religion of Allah ] invite, [O Muhammad], and remain on a right course as you are commanded and do not follow their inclinations but say, "I have believed in what Allah has revealed of the Qur'an, and I have been commanded to do justice among you. Allah is our Lord and your Lord. For us are our deeds, and for you your deeds. There is no [need for] argument between us and you. Allah will bring us together, and to Him is the [final] destination."(42:15)
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And so your scriptures say, doesn't mean anything to me.
 
psychoslice

psychoslice

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Sakeenah said:
Your statement shows that you haven't studied his life. Historians disagree with your claim. Records show that even at the height of the power of the Muslims during his life, he lived very humbly, and had all of his property dispersed throughout the community when he died. The leaders of Qurays that opposed him offered him wealth,women and status and he rejected all of it.

Quite a few non muslim historians,philosophers and leader from the past have spoken highly of the prophet muhammad. I don't want to bombard you with quotes so I'll quote two.

Thomas carlyle(1795-1881) Historian and philosopher.

" The lies(Western slander)which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man(Muhammad) are disgraceful to ourselves only."

Washington Irving (1783-1859) Well-known as the “first American man of letters".

“He was sober and abstemious in his diet, and a rigorous observer of fasts. He indulged in no magnificence of apparel, the ostentation of a petty mind; neither was his simplicity in dress affected, but the result of a real disregard to distinction from so trivial a source ... In his private dealings he was just. He treated friends and strangers, the rich and poor, the powerful and the weak, with equity, and was beloved by the common people for the affability with which he received them, and listened to their complaints ... His military triumphs awakened no pride nor vain glory, as they would have done had they been effected for selfish purposes. In the time of his greatest power he maintained the same simplicity of manners and appearance as in the days of his adversity. So far from affecting regal state, he was displeased if, on entering a room, any unusual testimonial of respect were shown to him." [Life of Mahomet, London,1889,p. 192-3,199]
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Of course you would be told that, search for yourself and don't be told how to think and what to think.
 
sovietchild

sovietchild

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In Medieval and early modern European societies, the age of marriage remained low, with documented cases of brides as young as seven years, although marriages were typically not consummated until the girl reached puberty.
 
sovietchild

sovietchild

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loverofhumanity

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
psychoslice said:
So we are told, and so you believe.
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Yes. We believe in embracing all truth. I'm a Bahá'í but I have more Bibles and Qurans and Hindu and Buddhist scriptures than I do Bahá'í books.

There is so much beauty and truth in each and every Faith that by not accepting them all we shut out and deprive ourselves of their beautiful teachings.

Zoroaster, the Prophet, gave a guide for life for eternity in just six words "good thoughts, good words, good deeds". That will make me a better person. And Buddha is another One I have engraved in my heart.

"A man may conquer ten times ten thousand men but he who conquers his own self is a true conquerer" - Buddha

The blessing and happiness of accepting all truth is like a bird being released from a cage.

Have a wonderful day.
 
psychoslice

psychoslice

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loverofhumanity said:
Yes. We believe in embracing all truth. I'm a Bahá'í but I have more Bibles and Qurans and Hindu and Buddhist scriptures than I do Bahá'í books.

There is so much beauty and truth in each and every Faith that by not accepting them all we shut out and deprive ourselves of their beautiful teachings.

Zoroaster, the Prophet, gave a guide for life for eternity in just six words "good thoughts, good words, good deeds". That will make me a better person. And Buddha is another One I have engraved in my heart.

"A man may conquer ten times ten thousand men but he who conquers his own self is a true conquerer" - Buddha

The blessing and happiness of accepting all truth is like a bird being released from a cage.

Have a wonderful day.
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Yes I totally agree, and that is how I have been for some time now, taking what resonant with my inner Being, these days I don't need to read much scriptures as I have experienced what is beyond the mind and through that experience all my questions have been answered, now I just read stuff for amusement.
 
loverofhumanity

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
psychoslice said:
Yes I totally agree, and that is how I have been for some time now, taking what resonant with my inner Being, these days I don't need to read much scriptures as I have experienced what is beyond the mind and through that experience all my questions have been answered, now I just read stuff for amusement.
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I think we are all searching for a way that we can all get along with each other on this planet but haven't found it yet.
 
Dawnofhope

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
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sovietchild said:
“…the nineteenth century, the minimum age of consent for sexual intercourse in most American states was 10 years. In Delaware it was only 7 years.”
Age of Consent in European & American History
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If this is true is it not hypocritical for American Christians to accuse Muhammad?

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Game over as far as I can see o_O

Off to the next enlightening debate.....
 
loverofhumanity

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
adrianhindes said:
If this is true is it not hypocritical for American Christians to accuse Muhammad?

Islam 1
Christian fundamentalists 0

Game over as far as I can see o_O

Off to the next enlightening debate.....
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Sura 4:6

"Make trial of orphans until they reach the age of marriage..

Ya-Ta-Miim = orphan, fatherless, become isolated or lonely, solitary, before puberty/maturity.

In the Arabic dictionary it shows the English meaning of each word in the Quran.

Note that one of the meanings is 'puberty/maturity'. Beyond a doubt this means according to the Quran one cannot marry a child.

A medical doctor can confirm scientifically the age of puberty.

We don't believe Muhammad disobeyed the explicit laws of the Quran but that the Hadith is incorrect.
 
Dawnofhope

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
loverofhumanity said:
Sura 4:6

"Make trial of orphans until they reach the age of marriage..

Ya-Ta-Miim = orphan, fatherless, become isolated or lonely, solitary, before puberty/maturity.

In the Arabic dictionary it shows the English meaning of each word in the Quran.

Note that one of the meanings is 'puberty/maturity'. Beyond a doubt this means according to the Quran one cannot marry a child.

A medical doctor can confirm scientifically the age of puberty.

We don't believe Muhammad disobeyed the explicit laws of the Quran but that the Hadith is incorrect.
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It may also be possible that women at that time reached puberty earlier and had children earlier. I can't imagine that there was too much in the way of an education system to assist prepare them for their responsibilities as members of nomadic tribes. I doubt if there were too many scientist/doctors arranging objective research as to the average age of puberty. They were such different times and I think we are on a hiding to nothing judging a Manifestation of God by our so called modern ethics/standards.
 
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