Sakeenah
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" Never mistake your arrogance for confidence and then let your ignorance become you."
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For those who think that prophet Mohammad was a pedophile
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" Never mistake your arrogance for confidence and then let your ignorance become you."
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Your the one who thinks he's right not me, I know nothing.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
I was saying that we don't care as well, the verse is for us and yes it wasn't for you
and actually the verse says the same reply as you did, our way isn't yours.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Can I ask you if you think everyone should see it your way, be honest now.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
I'm always honest, everyone has his own way of life, but do you think all ways
will lead to happiness.
Life is empty if there's no future out of it, it's like studying in the university with no goal, imagine
if you keep on studying and studying but never graduate.
I don't think it's a bad idea to think and search for the truth, there are many examples for
some people who had found happiness and peace by changing their way of life.
That's a wonderful quote. I have a tribute to Muhammad that I want to post also.
"Blessing and peace be upon Him [Muhammad] through Whose advent Bathá [Mecca] is wreathed in smiles, and the sweet savours of Whose raiment have shed fragrance upon all mankind-- He Who came to protect men from that which would harm them in the world below.
Exalted, immensely exalted is His station above the glorification of all beings and sanctified from the praise of the entire creation.
Through His advent the tabernacle of stability and order was raised throughout the world and the ensign of knowledge hoisted among the nations. May blessings rest also upon His kindred and His companions through whom the standard of the unity of God and of His singleness was uplifted and the banners of celestial triumph were unfurled. Through them the religion of God was firmly established among His creatures and His Name magnified amidst His servants."
- Tablets of Baha'u'llah revealed after the Kitab-i-Aqdas, p. 162
"Blessing and peace be upon Him [Muhammad] through Whose advent Bathá [Mecca] is wreathed in smiles, and the sweet savours of Whose raiment have shed fragrance upon all mankind-- He Who came to protect men from that which would harm them in the world below.
Exalted, immensely exalted is His station above the glorification of all beings and sanctified from the praise of the entire creation.
Through His advent the tabernacle of stability and order was raised throughout the world and the ensign of knowledge hoisted among the nations. May blessings rest also upon His kindred and His companions through whom the standard of the unity of God and of His singleness was uplifted and the banners of celestial triumph were unfurled. Through them the religion of God was firmly established among His creatures and His Name magnified amidst His servants."
- Tablets of Baha'u'llah revealed after the Kitab-i-Aqdas, p. 162
Servant_of_the_One1
Well-Known Member
They can think that. Free will.
Its a thinking that leads to their own suffering and torment.
Shall i stop them from digging their own graves and falling into hell?
The polytheists said worser things than that. They accused him of madness and being magician.
Do u hear their footsteps today? Can they escape the blazing fire?
Its a thinking that leads to their own suffering and torment.
Shall i stop them from digging their own graves and falling into hell?
The polytheists said worser things than that. They accused him of madness and being magician.
Do u hear their footsteps today? Can they escape the blazing fire?
You think I didn't do research and I'm not thinking for myself because I disagree with you.
I'm done with this thread
I wish to read more about His Life what books do you suggest in English?
Notanumber
A Free Man
When Islamists mention Muhammad they always say “Peace be upon him”, is this because they knew he was a very violent man and they said this to try to calm him down?
Jedster
Flying through space
..and those that claim to emulate Muhammed, persecute Bahais.
How do you get your head around that?
How would Muhammed have treated Bahais?
Firstly I want to say that Muslims are a good peaceful and courteous people. Muslims love the Baha'is and treat us very well. And we have many very good Muslim friends.
Indonesia recently recognised the Bahá'í Faith.
Those that truly emulate Muhammad are our best friends and never harm us because the Prophet taught them to be peaceful if people are peaceful towards them and we are.
We always stand up for Muhammad and the Quran because we believe it is a Revelation from God.
Muhammad, I believe loves us as His own. I always stand behind Him to show my deep love and respect for Him.
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firedragon
Veteran Member
Muhammed was no pedophile and the reasons for my convictions are below.
1. Either he wrote the Quran and believed it is from God, or God delivered it through him.
2. Either-way he will follow the Quran.
3. The Quran clearly defines the age of marriage (Balaghul Nikaha) as ability to manage their own finances and maturity.
And if you guys believe he is a pedophile based on the Aisha affair, you should also believe that he split the moon and it fell in a backyard, and that he was the most exemplary human being. You cant be a hypocrite and believe only what you pick and choose, because both are in the same book. Also you should know that based on the same book if you analyse Aishas age can be so different in different accounts.
If you are truthful to your heart you will understand what I say.
1. Either he wrote the Quran and believed it is from God, or God delivered it through him.
2. Either-way he will follow the Quran.
3. The Quran clearly defines the age of marriage (Balaghul Nikaha) as ability to manage their own finances and maturity.
And if you guys believe he is a pedophile based on the Aisha affair, you should also believe that he split the moon and it fell in a backyard, and that he was the most exemplary human being. You cant be a hypocrite and believe only what you pick and choose, because both are in the same book. Also you should know that based on the same book if you analyse Aishas age can be so different in different accounts.
If you are truthful to your heart you will understand what I say.
firedragon
Veteran Member
Since his Quran says not to mock others and never to kill an innocent human, and to give freedom of creed, and to speak to even your enemy better so that they may become your best friend, I assume he would have treated them pretty well.
Ha! Ha! Very well put.
Jedster
Flying through space
Sorry, I just do not believe you, although I am sure you wish it was that way.
Yes, plenty of Muslims are good and peaceful but they have no love or respect for Bahais.
I have know and spoken with Muslims since the 1960s. They have shown nothing but contempt for Bahais as most sects do for Ahmadis.
I cannot count that number of Bahais I met(in London) who have fled Iran and were/are living in fear of the regime.
Jedster
Flying through space
It's a pity that those who claim to follow Muhammed don't do the same.
firedragon
Veteran Member
When Muslims meet you they will say Assalaamu Alaikum, Peace be on you. Does that mean you are violent?
When Jesus went to the upper room and met his disciples he said Shalom Aleikhem he meant Peace be on you in English. Does that mean the disciples are violent and this is some kind of pacification?
Why ask the dumbest questions in the world I wonder mate.
Notanumber
A Free Man
It might seem like one of the dumbest questions in the world but we are discussing the dumbest religion in the world.
He was just joking man - I found it quite funny, although I didn't agree with the point.
Addressing your other points: do you reckon most Muslims are happy to believe both Muhammad's status as a perfect exemplar for human behaviour and his having had sex with a 9-year old? From what I've seen of you, I am not surprised to find you aren't of such mind.
Its not always easy being a Baha'i. In some countries Baha'is are persecuted. That's the reality. Sometimes it's been Muslims, sometimes Christians, and sometimes people of no Faith at all. Baha'is are asked to love, to see the good in people, to forgive, and act with integrity.
In times of trouble I remind myself of Baha'u'llahs words:
"Consort with the followers of all religions in a spirit of friendliness and fellowship."