For those who think that prophet Mohammad was a pedophile

[loverofhumanity]

Sorry, I just do not believe you, although I am sure you wish it was that way.
Yes, plenty of Muslims are good and peaceful but they have no love or respect for Bahais.
I have know and spoken with Muslims since the 1960s. They have shown nothing but contempt for Bahais as most sects do for Ahmadis.
I cannot count that number of Bahais I met(in London) who have fled Iran and were/are living in fear of the regime.

We can only be patient and continue to extend our hand in friendship to one and all.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Its not always easy being a Baha'i. In some countries Baha'is are persecuted. That's the reality. Sometimes it's been Muslims, sometimes Christians, and sometimes people of no Faith at all. Baha'is are asked to love, to see the good in people, to forgive, and act with integrity.

In times of trouble I remind myself of Baha'u'llahs words:

"Consort with the followers of all religions in a spirit of friendliness and fellowship."

It's almost New Year there so Happy New Year Adrian!!!! Hope 2017 is very special for you. 2017 is a very Holy Year for the Baha'is.

All the best!!!

 

[Dawnofhope]

It's almost New Year there so Happy New Year Adrian!!!! Hope 2017 is very special for you. 2017 is a very Holy Year for the Baha'is.

All the best!!!

Happy new year to you too my friend. There's something in the ether for sure.... Maybe Australia's year to finally reclaim the Bledisloe cup!

 

[FearGod]

He was just joking man - I found it quite funny, although I didn't agree with the point.

Addressing your other points: do you reckon most Muslims are happy to believe both Muhammad's status as a perfect exemplar for human behaviour and his having had sex with a 9-year old? From what I've seen of you, I am not surprised to find you aren't of such mind.

How could you know that the purpose of marriage was for sex while the historical life
of the prophet shows without doubt that he wasn't interested in women, he was known
for his noble morals before Islam, he didn't have any relation with any woman and his first
woman in his life was a widow of the age of 40, he stayed with her for 25 years, she loved
him and he loved her regardless of the difference of the years between them, he was
young and she was old.

Aisha was known to be good in memorizing and a smart girl, just once she moved to the house of the prophet, she memorized the whole quran in a very short period of time , that's a good sign
that both were busy in the material world, after his death people returned to her for asking her
questions about religion.

In old age people aren't as active and alert as in their young age, the prophet shortly before
his death he asked people to gather for an important sermon and it was his final sermon before
leaving earth, he warned people to take the matter seriously and that the afterlife is real
and they'll be asked for their deeds on earth, he asked them to memorize his words to warn the
next generation about the afterlife.

Do you think he was busy in sex?

 

[loverofhumanity]

Happy new year to you too my friend. There's something in the ether for sure.... Maybe Australia's year to finally reclaim the Bledisloe cup!

Thank you Adrian. God bless you and all the friends and all New Zealanders (just not the All Blacks)

 

[firedragon]

He was just joking man - I found it quite funny, although I didn't agree with the point.

Addressing your other points: do you reckon most Muslims are happy to believe both Muhammad's status as a perfect exemplar for human behaviour and his having had sex with a 9-year old? From what I've seen of you, I am not surprised to find you aren't of such mind.

Frankly, Muslims almost never ever discuss that type of ahadith. I presume its the same as those who address only the ahadiths like Muhammed marrying Aisha.

 

[firedragon]

It might seem like one of the dumbest questions in the world but we are discussing the dumbest religion in the world.

Tsk. Foot-sock.

 

[firedragon]

Its not always easy being a Baha'i. In some countries Baha'is are persecuted. That's the reality. Sometimes it's been Muslims, sometimes Christians, and sometimes people of no Faith at all. Baha'is are asked to love, to see the good in people, to forgive, and act with integrity.

In times of trouble I remind myself of Baha'u'llahs words:

"Consort with the followers of all religions in a spirit of friendliness and fellowship."

Sorry about that mate. I wish things were different and we lived in harmony.

 

[LuisDantas]

Frankly, Muslims almost never ever discuss that type of ahadith. I presume its the same as those who address only the ahadiths like Muhammed marrying Aisha.

Hey, that reminds me:

Would you be so kind as to give me a glimpse of your understanding of how Muslims usually relate to the Ahadith?

Ahadith seem to exist in a very ambiguous role.

On the one hand, any and all Muslims seem to be essentially free to disregard them as they please, since they are presumably not of divine origin and therefore nonbinding.

On the other hand, they do seem to be deemed necessary to provide specifics to many of the practices of Islaam.

My current impression is that for all practical purposes most Muslims end up adopting a set of Ahadith as their guides for practice, even if they can't really trust them anywhere near the extent that they presumably trust the Qu'ran.

Which Ahadith they choose to trust and which to reject is probably a hot subject that correlates strongly with other matters of controversy, although I expect a lot of less drastic variations to exist as well.

How accurate, if at all, does that sound?

 

[FearGod]

It might seem like one of the dumbest questions in the world but we are discussing the dumbest religion in the world.

Yes it's the dumbest religion in the eyes of the drug addict and pimps

 

[Notanumber]

Yes it's the dumbest religion in the eyes of the drug addict and pimps

Did Muhammad do drugs as well?

 

[FearGod]

Did Muhammad do drugs as well?

Dealing with drugs and prostitution is a great sin in Islam and hence drug addict and pimps
see Islam as the dumbest religion in the world.

 

[Notanumber]

Dealing with drugs and prostitution is a great sin in Islam and hence drug addict and pimps
see Islam as the dumbest religion in the world.

Sorry I thought that was your explanation to account for his hallucinations.

 

[FearGod]

Sorry I thought that was your explanation to account for his hallucinations.

Good it's clear to you now what I meant, study hard

 

[Notanumber]

Good it's clear to you now what I meant, study hard

There we were thinking that you had found the answer. If it wasn’t drugs, what was it that caused his hallucinations?

 

[FearGod]

There we were thinking that you had found the answer. If it wasn’t drugs, what was it that caused his hallucinations?

I don't know any thing about your father, you can talk with him, BTW it's off topic,
so back to our main subject.

 

[Notanumber]

I don't know any thing about your father, you can talk with him, BTW it's off topic,
so back to our main subject.

Just when it seemed like we were getting somewhere.

Drug misuse is the best explanation we have so far.

This is why Islam now calls it a sin. They do not want another prophet causing even more confusion.

I am right that Muhammad was supposed to be the final prophet.

 

[Rival]

This is why Islam now calls it a sin. They do not want another prophet causing even more confusion.

Bro this is really ignorant. Please, this is one of the worst arguments I've heard.

Also, temporal lobe epilepsy works better.

 

[psychoslice]

I'm always honest, everyone has his own way of life, but do you think all ways
will lead to happiness.

Life is empty if there's no future out of it, it's like studying in the university with no goal, imagine
if you keep on studying and studying but never graduate.

I don't think it's a bad idea to think and search for the truth, there are many examples for
some people who had found happiness and peace by changing their way of life.

Yes that is your personal advice, and everyone else has theirs, you found what you are after in your belief system, and many others have also in their belief system, it doesn't mean your system is better.

 

[Sapiens]

I don't believe the tale which says that the prophet traveled to heaven by a winged horse and
actually the prophet didn't know how the paradise looks like other than what have been described
in the quran, so rationally speaking, traveling to heaven and meeting God is just a tale, not different from the tale about having sex with children in which you believe.

I don't believe any of it, not winged horses, not pederasty, not Prophet(s) ... none of it.