And then there's the question about other things
found in the womb, eg, fertilized egg, fetus.
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Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution and Abortion
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found in the womb, eg, fertilized egg, fetus.
your bible doesn't recognize a fetus as a soul. a soul has the breath of life in it, a mind. literally ruach
the extra weight gain is needed obviously. but that is only for those wanting a baby. also, the ot and nt do not recognize a spirit in a fetus. it's only after birth and taking the breath of life that it is counted.
are you seriously wanting to change the bible too?
your bible doesn't recognize a fetus as a soul. a soul has the breath of life in it, a mind. literally ruach
When a mom is pregnant, she doesn't go around saying "I have a fetus in my womb", unless I have misheard. What I hear here saying is "My baby is growing beautifully" or some other wonderful statement.
it doesn't matter what a mother says. people project all kinds of things that aren't necessarily true.
mothers are sometimes devastated when they miscarry.
Yes,
fetus (n.)
late 14c., "the young while in the womb or egg" (tending to mean vaguely the embryo in the later stage of development), from Latin fetus (often, incorrectly, foetus) "the bearing or hatching of young, a bringing forth, pregnancy, childbearing, offspring," from suffixed form of PIE root *dhe(i)- "to suck."
In Latin, fetus sometimes was transferred figuratively to the newborn creature itself, or used in a sense of "offspring, brood" (as in Horace's Germania quos horrida parturit Fetus), but this was not the usual meaning. It also was used of plants, in the sense of "fruit, produce, shoot," and figuratively as "growth, production." The spelling foetus is sometimes attempted as a learned Latinism, but it is unetymological (see oe).
I think the word "fetus" when it is "the young in the womb" has desensitized our understanding.
I think it does.
Yes... because they lost their child. I should know!
I think it does.
some mothers are relieved when they lose a fetus; either by spontaneous abortion or assisted. not everything is a black and white situation.
And some people take their lives... so?
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Even though I agree (and insist on including "elective"), I don't do that because the fetus is (nor does it make it) a person.
I think people call a fertilized egg a "baby"
so as to over-sensitize themselves.
Tis very snowflakie to lose the distinction
between such things.
Universal human rights include reproductive rights.
And rhe UDHR explicitly recognizes (in Article 12) the right to privacy that the US Supreme Court had to throw out in order to overturn Roe v. Wade.
again body autonomy. the bible places no emphasis on the body. the emphasis is on mind, consciousness, spirit.
jesus even said it, the spirit quickeneth, the flesh counts for nothing.
the dead are spirits inhabiting graves. you call them bodies. the body has become more important than the spirit.
would you like to rewrite the bible?
So you've never heard pregnant people say things like "we're expecting" (i.e. "we're awaiting something that isn't here yet")? Weird.
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since "fetus" is a modern day designation... I wills tay with the original designation of "baby"
let love flow and call me a snowflake if you so desire
YES... "We're expecting a BABY"
May I receive a yes/no answer?
In my language there is no such an expression.
Always direct object present.
To expect a baby.
Right: they expect a baby to arrive in a few months. You don't "expect" something that's already happened.YES... "We're expecting a BABY"
"We're expecting my aunt to come over today!"
"But honey - I'm already here. I got here an hour ago."
"Yes, but I can still expect you!"
"..."