Orbit
I'm a planet
Wow. So let me get this straight. I start a thread about free speech on campus. Because the thread is not about what you want it to be about, I am antisemitic. Got it.
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Free Speech in the U.S. and Gaza/Israel
- Thread starter Orbit
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Wow. So let me get this straight. I start a thread about free speech on campus. Because the thread is not about what you want it to be about, I am antisemitic. Got it.
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Compared to men - Palestinian women have 10-14% work. Same circumstances, the women have fewer opportunities. I am biased against sexist belief systems. Most religious groups are sexist, Muslims more than others.
Name a Muslim majority country where equal numbers of women work, equal numbers of women are educated etc.
No, you do not "got it." No one should find that surprising.
I don't personally believe whether they voted them in or not makes a difference, but it is worth noting the majority of living Palestinians were not of voting age to have participated the most recent election.Palestinians voted in Hamas, support them. Its a real mess, mass brainwashing.
Palestinians in Gaza, West Bank strongly support Hamas, October 7 attack
A total of 75% of respondents agreed with the October 7 attack and 74.7% agreed that they support a single Palestinian state “from the river to the sea.”m.jpost.com
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Orbit
I'm a planet
More shenanigans in my timeline this morning:
theintercept.com
www.michigandaily.com
www.insidehighered.com
www.change.org
Harvard Law Review Editors Vote to Kill Article About Genocide in Gaza
The Harvard Law Review censored a piece by a Palestinian scholar on applying a genocide framework to Israel’s attacks on Gaza.
theintercept.com
UMSI will not punish board member and donor Carin Ehrenberg
The University of Michigan School of Information (UMSI) will not take action against Ehrenberg for verbally assaulting U-M students.
www.michigandaily.com
ACLU urges colleges not to investigate pro-Palestine groups
The American Civil Liberties Union issued an open letter on Wednesday to U.S. college and university presidents urging them to defend students’ free speech rights and not pursue investigations of campus chapters of Students for Justice in Palestine.
Sign the Petition
UCI files student conduct charges against a pro- Palestinian, Jewish Student!
www.change.org
U of M faces a real problem regarding censorship.UMSI will not punish board member and donor Carin Ehrenberg
The University of Michigan School of Information (UMSI) will not take action against Ehrenberg for verbally assaulting U-M students.
SE MI is heavily Muslim because they began coming
here a century ago. And many foreign Muslim
students flock here, especially noticeable in
engineering. But U of M is also heavily Jewish.
(This I discovered as a student landlord. Late
rent payments were accompanied by the excuse
of "the Jewish holidays".)
We see 3 kinds of advocacy....
1) Pro Israel
2) Pro Palestinians
3) Attempts to censor #2.
#3 fails.
It only causes grief, while
free speech continues.
Orbit
I'm a planet
Another victim of the war on free speech: A Jewish American scientist with family in Israel:
Excerpt:
"Mike essentially voiced the opinion that Palestinian civilians should not be collectively punished for the crimes of Hamas. I find that viewpoint uncontroversial and fully in line with international law,” Nielsen said in an email. “The fact that a coordinated online effort managed to get him fired,” he added, “sets an unfortunate precedent and I fear that it will contribute to an environment where other academics, particularly younger and less established researchers, do not dare to speak up.”
www.motherjones.com
Excerpt:
"Mike essentially voiced the opinion that Palestinian civilians should not be collectively punished for the crimes of Hamas. I find that viewpoint uncontroversial and fully in line with international law,” Nielsen said in an email. “The fact that a coordinated online effort managed to get him fired,” he added, “sets an unfortunate precedent and I fear that it will contribute to an environment where other academics, particularly younger and less established researchers, do not dare to speak up.”
A top science journal fired its editor over a pro-Palestinian tweet. He has no regrets.
UC Berkeley's Michael Eisen isn't one to back away from a fight.
www.motherjones.com
Hollywood... an industry long beset with many
kinds of bigotry. Despite Muslims no longer being
portrayed primarily as terrorists, It's anti-Muslim
& pro-Israel is really rearing its ugly head these days.
www.newsweek.com
www.theguardian.com
kinds of bigotry. Despite Muslims no longer being
portrayed primarily as terrorists, It's anti-Muslim
& pro-Israel is really rearing its ugly head these days.
Celebrities who faced consequences for public support of Palestinians
From losing jobs to being dropped by agents, many stars have faced consequences for speaking out in favor of Palestinians.
www.newsweek.com
‘Silence is not an option’: Melissa Barrera responds to being fired from Scream VII over Israel-Hamas posts
The actor said she condemned antisemitism and Islamophobia, after being dropped from the horror film franchise for social media posts interpreted as antisemitic
Orbit
I'm a planet
And then there's this: (3 Palestinian students shot in Vermont by a white guy)Hollywood... an industry long beset with many
kinds of bigotry. Despite Muslims no longer being
portrayed primarily as terrorists, It's anti-Muslim
& pro-Israel is really rearing its ugly head these days.
Celebrities who faced consequences for public support of Palestinians
From losing jobs to being dropped by agents, many stars have faced consequences for speaking out in favor of Palestinians.‘Silence is not an option’: Melissa Barrera responds to being fired from Scream VII over Israel-Hamas posts
The actor said she condemned antisemitism and Islamophobia, after being dropped from the horror film franchise for social media posts interpreted as antisemitic
Suspect arrested in Vermont shooting of 3 U.S. college students of Palestinian descent
Follow NBC News' coverage for live updates about the shooting of three U.S. college students of Palestinian descent in Burlington, Vermont.
www.nbcnews.com
Biden pays lip service to combatting islamaphobia.And then there's this: (3 Palestinian students shot in Vermont by a white guy)
Suspect arrested in Vermont shooting of 3 U.S. college students of Palestinian descent
Follow NBC News' coverage for live updates about the shooting of three U.S. college students of Palestinian descent in Burlington, Vermont.
The White House is working on a strategy to combat Islamophobia. Many Muslim Americans are skeptical
The White House has announced that President Joe Biden’s administration is developing a national strategy to combat Islamophobia
Yet military & financial aid still flows to Israel.
Orbit
I'm a planet
And it's not just in the US...
Meet the Israeli History Teacher Arrested & Jailed for Facebook Posts Opposing Killing of Palestinians
On November 9, Israeli police arrested Jerusalem history and civics teacher Meir Baruchin after he posted a message on Facebook about his opposition to the killing of innocent Palestinian civilians. Police seized his phone and two laptops before interrogating him on suspicion of committing an...
www.democracynow.org
Zooming out, I see this university, cancel culture crap happening with many controversial topics. We've got to defend free speech, no matter how repugnant the speech might be. We cannot worry about "offending" people.
(And yes, I understand free speech is already limited, I just don't think we can allow it to be more limited.)
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Criticizing Israel is not inherently a comment against Jews. Most of are perfectly capable of separating the people from the state. And nobstate is beyond reproach or criticizism when they turn into a monster while fighting them.
Although just as we should address the relationship
between Islam & human rights violations in Islamic
countries, so we should with Judaism & The Jewish State.
It must not be ignored simply because fervent apologists
will cry "Anti-semite!".
Not much different from Putin's Russia.And it's not just in the US...
Meet the Israeli History Teacher Arrested & Jailed for Facebook Posts Opposing Killing of Palestinians
On November 9, Israeli police arrested Jerusalem history and civics teacher Meir Baruchin after he posted a message on Facebook about his opposition to the killing of innocent Palestinian civilians. Police seized his phone and two laptops before interrogating him on suspicion of committing an...www.democracynow.org
Both anti-semitic & islamophobic threads
are important because I'm human.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yeah. Plus it's just a fact states do dirty, crappy things, especially larger ones with power and wealth and those attached and supported by the empires.
Aye, Israel is a wealthy country, & it wields the
biggest of sticks....USA's military & political might.
I hope not. I've been criticizing Israel for decades. Thanks for sharing.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Charges of antisemitism have increased since criticisms of Israels response to Hamas' attack began appearing here as some members have harshly criticized Israel's brutal overeaction to Hamas' attack.