Have you ever wondered why people always bring up children in these discussions, usually the same people who approve of abortion?
The issue of abortion is a difficult moral dilemma. The pro-choice people aren't advocating for abortion as something fun, they acknowledge there are serious personal, social, and health aspects to pregnancy and a blanket prohibition ignores these many, complex elements. No one likes abortion, but we do value liberty for women. Also notable is the lack of support for universal healthcare by anti-choice people, and that, to my mind, is a worse moral violation because that results in the deaths of people and infants due to a lack of healthcare access. So until you are on board with healthcare for all you can keep quiet about the morals of being pro-choice.
Is a child dying worse because they are younger? Death always sucks regardless of whether it's a child or not.
Then support healthcare for all. As long as healthcare is a for-profit product sold to customers there will be illness and death due to a lack of access.
" Religion" explains why we hate death, because it's not our original state, it's not what humans are created for..we know intuitively that death is an invader.
But religions don't hate death. Even Christianity says there is life after death, and this afterlife is better than our physical life, so why are you saying it's bad? Aren't you a Christian?
In the dog each dog evolution theory, it's just there...we really should shrug at it if we are just animals.
But dogs don't eat dogs in nature, there is completion for resources. It's only humans who deliberately kill each other for petty reasons. Even the Bible says how God forced the elimination of certain tribes of people. There's your basic, brutal, primal evolution at work.
Humans are animals, and we wage war to fight over resources just like any other animal. We try to be civilized and rational by doing trade and developing mutual respect for different tribes. With the exception of Putin the West has done very well since the 1940's to cooperate with each other, and this wasn't done through religion, but through a reasoned process that recognizes mutual respect is a vastly better approach. Has religion been part of this process? No. It's all been secular.
If there's no God to decide our fate, we are just plant food because that's all we are good for, and death is just natural.
Scary thought to not be superior to other animals, and be so greedy to want to live forever as if yourself is a God. I suggest a better approach is to accept that our death might be oblivion. In the vast universe why assume your life is worth more?
My own assessment is that what our fear is really the death of the ego. When my mom had weeks to live this past year I was glad she was so accepting of the end.
I think people don't want to believe in God because they don't like the idea of someone having any control over their lives.
Really? You can't acknowledge that some folks just aren't convinced any of the many God concepts are true?
I argue that even many believers aren't convinced a God exists. Look at many conservative Christians who do not follow Jesus' example of helping the needy, rejecting greed and material possessions, who devote themselves to others, etc. We see many conservative Christians actually live contrary to what Jesus taught, they are antiChrists. If these people really believed in God they would be bending over backwards to live as Jesus did, to help the needy and be moral in every aspect of life. They don't.
