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Fundamentalist Atheists

CynthiaCypher

Well-Known Member
I took care to read it before responding.

It equates fundamentalist and mainstream atheists into a single group and then claims that 99% of 'r/atheists' are included.
You don't understand the reference. r/atheists is a certain internet community.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
Never been to *chan i.e r/atheism, have you?

Two things.

1. You can not be a fundamentalist atheist, there is no such thing. The word 'fundamentalism' refers specifically to religious imterpretation.

2. r/atheism is an athiest site - you can not be accused of evangelising and going about the place 'spreading the word' of atheism by participating in what is an exclusively atheist forum.

Wouldn't rabidly evangelising about atheism demand that you be interacting with non-atheists?
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
That is irrelevant. For every single Christian who wishes evangelize an atheist there are thousands who do not want to.

I happen to think throwing pearls before swine is immoral.

Most Christians don't wish to evangelize? Really? I think you're most likely mistaken on that.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
That is irrelevant. For every single Christian who wishes evangelize an atheist there are thousands who do not want to.

I happen to think throwing pearls before swine is immoral.

Calling me a pig huh? Nice. Very Christian of you.

Of course it is relevant - for every atheist who 'evangelises' there are also thousands who do not.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Most Christians don't wish to evangelize? Really? I think you're most likely mistaken on that.

Well, there's actually nothing wrong with evangelizing. If the people don't want to hear it then the evangelist shouldn't keep preaching to that person, however. (I am talking of a private conversation, not at a Billy Graham crusade or something, in that case, the person not wanting to hear it shouldn't even show up there ;) )
 

CynthiaCypher

Well-Known Member
Two things.

1. You can not be a fundamentalist atheist, there is no such thing. The word 'fundamentalism' refers specifically to religious imterpretation.

2. r/atheism is an athiest site - you can not be accused of evangelising and going about the place 'spreading the word' of atheism by participating in what is an exclusively atheist forum.

Wouldn't rabidly evangelising about atheism demand that you be interacting with non-atheists?

fundamentlism: a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles.

Any strict adherence to a set of principles can be construed as fundamentalism. So if you strictly adhere to the view that there is no god and theist are irrational and misguided then you fall into that category whether you like it or not.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Well, there's actually nothing wrong with evangelizing. If the people don't want to hear it then the evangelist shouldn't keep preaching to that person, however. (I am talking of a private conversation, not at a Billy Graham crusade or something, in that case, the person not wanting to hear it shouldn't even show up there ;) )

I'm against evangelism/proselytizing but that's not the point. Cynthia was saying that most Christians aren't trying to convert people and I don't see how that's true at all.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
To claim that less than one Christian in one thousand wants to proselitize is certainly an exageration. It would be weird, even suspect, if that were true. Even Masons bat higher than that.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I'm against evangelism/proselytizing but that's not the point. Cynthia was saying that most Christians aren't trying to convert people and I don't see how that's true at all.

We're not actually commanded to convert anyone. We were commanded to tell others about Jesus- those who never heard of Him. People convert themselves. Semantics, maybe, but that's the way it is. ;)
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend The Doors of Perception,

Fundamentalist Atheists
Anyone else see these folks?
Living in India were religion is cultural we have fundamentals of the other kind i.e. religious fundamentalist; however its all the same fundamentalists are fundamentalists be of any kind, anywhere.
Yes they suffer from similar situations i.e. limited intelligence to understand that what they do is neither helpful to them or to anyone though it may appear otherwise to them.
What is to be realised that we as humans are part of evolution and evolution carries all kinds with itself and those whose minds stagnates at any fixed points then it is only themselves where evolution stops meaning now they are left aside by evolution which is eternal.

Love & rgds
 

CynthiaCypher

Well-Known Member
Calling me a pig huh? Nice. Very Christian of you.

Of course it is relevant - for every atheist who 'evangelises' there are also thousands who do not.

It's very Christian. Because it is what Jesus taught. You do not throw pearls to swine or that which is holy to dogs, because swine have no understanding of the value of pearls and dogs have no understanding of the value of what is holy.

I share my faith but only within a certain context, when it is respected and when I can value and respect others I choose to share with. But I will defend my faith always because I am called by the principles of my faith to defend it. I may be no evangelist, but I am not a doormat.

Capiche?
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
We're not actually commanded to convert anyone. We were commanded to tell others about Jesus- those who never heard of Him. People convert themselves. Semantics, maybe, but that's the way it is. ;)

Exactly - YOU are COMMANDED to evangelise, atheists are not. Evangelising is more common to christians than it is to atheists.

As I said - there are many times more Christians evangelising their beliefs than there are atheists.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
It's very Christian. Because it is what Jesus taught. You do not throw pearls to swine or that which is holy to dogs, because swine have no understanding of the value of pearls and dogs have no understanding of the value of what is holy.

I share my faith but only within a certain context, when it is respected and when I can value and respect others I choose to share with. But I will defend my faith always because I am called by the principles of my faith to defend it. I may be no evangelist, but I am not a doormat.

Capiche?

What is clear is that you are the first to leap to insult and disrespect.

THAT I capiche.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Exactly - YOU are COMMANDED to evangelise, atheists are not. Evangelising is more common to christians than it is to atheists.

As I said - there are many times more Christians evangelising their beliefs than there are atheists.

Certain Christians evangelize because they are commanded to, certain atheists "anti-proselytize" without having any command to do so.
 

Bunyip

pro scapegoat
fundamentlism: a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles.

Any strict adherence to a set of principles can be construed as fundamentalism. So if you strictly adhere to the view that there is no god and theist are irrational and misguided then you fall into that category whether you like it or not.

Yes, and of course atheism is not a set of principles, nor is it a movement or attitude. Atheism gives no set of principles that could be fundamentally adhered to. Hence my point that the term 'fundamentalist atheist' is a nonsense term.
 

CynthiaCypher

Well-Known Member
What is clear is that you are the first to leap to insult and disrespect.

THAT I capiche.

I am not insulting you. If you are not capable of understanding my faith then why should I share it with you? But if you attack what you do not understand I will defend it.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Yes, and of course atheism is not a set of principles, nor is it a movement or attitude. Atheism gives no set of principles that could be fundamentally adhered to. Hence my point that the term 'fundamentalist atheist' is a nonsense term.

That's the way it's supposed to be, but there are atheists who do anti-proselytize.
 
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