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G-d blew it

Akivah

Well-Known Member
Recently, I've read some posts which claim that G-d did a poor job with Creation because of some perceived deficiency or another. So assume that you are G-d and you are creating the universe. What would you do differently and why? Would you make it impossible for humans to commit evil, would you make people immortal, would you make yourself physically present to your Creations at all times, would you not even bother with creating humans, would you make death by anything other than old age impossible? Or what? Only your imagination and the universe are the limit.
 

Sultan Of Swing

Well-Known Member
Gonna be frank, law and order is pretty boring. I'd have this wibbly wobbly world of crazy logic and physics where I can bounce around in. :yes:
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
Recently, I've read some posts which claim that G-d did a poor job with Creation because of some perceived deficiency or another. So assume that you are G-d and you are creating the universe. What would you do differently and why? Would you make it impossible for humans to commit evil, would you make people immortal, would you make yourself physically present to your Creations at all times, would you not even bother with creating humans, would you make death by anything other than old age impossible? Or what? Only your imagination and the universe are the limit.

If I were God I wouldn't create. I'm not that petty.
 

illykitty

RF's pet cat
If I were God I wouldn't create. I'm not that petty.

Do you find artists petty too? What about scientists? Or people working in robotics and AI? If you refer to the god concept where "he" creates and expects worship, then not all religions are like that.

I'm not sure what I would do tbh, it's a difficult question. Part of me would want to remove all suffering but also part of me wonder about stuff like free will... Would it be ok to have "limited" free will?

One thing is sure, I'd make a universe a bit more fantasy and magic oriented. :D
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
If I were a god, and my primary attribute was love, I'd create a universe which consisted of nothing but love. It's not difficult to imagine or conceive, and if one is all-powerful, it would not be difficult to create.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
If everything is already perfect then what would need to be created?

Assuming God is perfect then the only thing that could be created is flaws in that perfection. You create flaws in perfection so people can have the challenge of over coming those flaws.

I think we have the ability to overcome the flaws. Unfortunately, some instead of stepping up to the challenge would rather just blame God for creation.
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
Do you find artists petty too? What about scientists? Or people working in robotics and AI? If you refer to the god concept where "he" creates and expects worship, then not all religions are like that.

An omnimax god has nothing to gain by creating. It knows it can do anything and it knows the results. Therefore, for such a being to create is ultimately petty.
 

Sultan Of Swing

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure what I would do tbh, it's a difficult question. Part of me would want to remove all suffering but also part of me wonder about stuff like free will... Would it be ok to have "limited" free will?
I wonder, would it be easier for you to tolerate suffering if you could see the sufferer's eternity of bliss and happiness a mere fraction of time away? Would limiting or removing people's free will be worth merely removing this fraction of time in which people suffer, which would not even amount to a drop in the ocean of eternity?
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
An omnimax god has nothing to gain by creating. It knows it can do anything and it knows the results. Therefore, for such a being to create is ultimately petty.

I'm not following how a term like "petty" would even apply to such a god. That sounds like an anthropomorphic projection to me. :shrug:
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
I'm not following how a term like "petty" would even apply to such a god. That sounds like an anthropomorphic projection to me. :shrug:

Impossible and illogical didn't have the negative impact I wanted to create. Most words used to describe such a being are horribly human. :p
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
I'd create spiritual beings with the same potential as me, teach them what I know and encourage them to go off and create their own worlds/universes.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
Recently, I've read some posts which claim that G-d did a poor job with Creation because of some perceived deficiency or another. So assume that you are G-d and you are creating the universe. What would you do differently and why? Would you make it impossible for humans to commit evil, would you make people immortal, would you make yourself physically present to your Creations at all times, would you not even bother with creating humans, would you make death by anything other than old age impossible? Or what? Only your imagination and the universe are the limit.

I would create a universe that was fine tuned for life and make evolution the process to create life.

When and if higher intelligence evolved, I wouldn't demand that they believed in my as a deity. I would let them come to their own ideas own their own, mostly at least, maybe nudge here and there to just help them along.

I wouldn't create some absolute moral system that I had to proclaim through some prophets here and there, but rather let these intelligent beings come to their own senses and come up with the best solutions for their own problems. You can't grow unless you have to work for it.
 

Sir Doom

Cooler than most of you
I would create a universe that was fine tuned for life and make evolution the process to create life.

When and if higher intelligence evolved, I wouldn't demand that they believed in my as a deity. I would let them come to their own ideas own their own, mostly at least, maybe nudge here and there to just help them along.

I wouldn't create some absolute moral system that I had to proclaim through some prophets here and there, but rather let these intelligent beings come to their own senses and come up with the best solutions for their own problems. You can't grow unless you have to work for it.

Sounds a lot like reality. ;)
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
I wouldn't change a thing. It's even silly for me to think that we, with such limited perspective, can critique the work of something a zillion times vaster than us.
 
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