Jeremy Taylor
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That is a truly admirable amount of equivocation (sorry for the technical term) for three short sentences. Well done.
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That is a truly admirable amount of equivocation (sorry for the technical term) for three short sentences. Well done.
Jeremy Taylor
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Good for you. But science deals with empirical, external reality, and largely the quantitative aspects of it. It is not a holistic method for understanding reality.
No, I'm just pointing out the faulty logic of you right-wing "traditionalists" who are following traditions that are usually only a few hundred years old and which are foreign to your native lands. You're a confused lot.
dgirl1986
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You mean fantasy methods?
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Wait! I'm a traditionalist. Ave Stella Tenebrarum!
Jeremy Taylor
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No, I mean philosophy (which is a necessary foundation for natural science), history, and similar intellectual but not necessarily scientific methods, with their own fields of inquiry.
Jeremy Taylor
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No, you are making random assertions and committing logical fallacies.
dgirl1986
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Im not sure how that works? Tree of life type stuff?
That's nice, Jeremy. :sleep:
Jeremy Taylor
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Well, natural science deals only with a certain field of inquiry - external, empirical nature and especially its quantitative side - and the methods required to understand it. We have other means to understand other fields of inquiry, such as history or philosophical fields. Philosophy, too, is something of an overarching means of knowledge which underpins other areas of study. For example, logic and other philosophical tools and assumptions are necessary for natural science.
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Most won't ever get the reference. It was the 90's. That's how I rolled back in the day.Lmao!
dgirl1986
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The field of science and psychology also started out as philosophy. Philosophy is a great way of asking question and theorizing, but not really good for answering questions from my experience. I believe logic comes from the brain, the same place emotion does. If I remember rightly I think it is tied into the ID, and super ego.
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Their position on gay marriage would have been, "okie dokie".I had to Google it but I get it.
Well, of course.
But you do have any more info about them? Information on that group seems scarce.Jeremy Taylor
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Well, if logic were tied to the brain, that would seem to compromise our ability to apply it to reality with any confidence.
But I was referring more to the fact logic is not conducted according to the methods of science, but is necessary for them. Natural science relies on philosophical assumptions when it comes to causation, categorisation, and the like. Without philosophy, science would not be possible. There is no reason to think, therefore, philosophy must be the handmaiden of science and, whilst being prior to it, must somehow be bound by it. All the important questions are philosophical or religious and not scientific.
Indeed, the claim that all knowledge is scientific is famously self-defeating, not being a scientific claim.
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dgirl1986
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I may or may not understand what you are talking about...so...you know...I like science. Science is good. I also like psychology...and I hope to have children one day with my female partner...
Jeremy Taylor
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Continue to chant that mantra. Interesting how many people treat science as if it were some religion, without really understanding what it is and what its limits are. As I said, all the important questions are not scientific in essence.
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Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
They disbanded at least for the time being. Religious bigotry got out of hand in Croatia. They went either underground and/or out of site.Well, of course.