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Gaza: Comparing Egypt's blockade to Israel's?

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
What has no justification is using their children as human shields.

That's where the outrage should be.

honestly , do you believe that ALL (the Gazans) whom killed and injured used as human shield ?
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
It's easy to get side-tracked. It's interesting to look at specific questions.

We might also ask, why does Egypt *continue* to blockade Gaza?

(I know there have been talks, and periods of sort-of free passage - but painted with a broad brush, Egypt has been blockading Gaza.)

My best answer is - again with a broad brush - Palestinians are Arab pawns.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
It's easy to get side-tracked. It's interesting to look at specific questions.

We might also ask, why does Egypt *continue* to blockade Gaza?

(I know there have been talks, and periods of sort-of free passage - but painted with a broad brush, Egypt has been blockading Gaza.)

My best answer is - again with a broad brush - Palestinians are Arab pawns.

Because Hamas is like ISIS to a large extent, and they threaten the security of Egypt and other countries, including the Saudis. Also, the Egyptian and Hamas leaderships are at odds, thoroughly disliking each other.

Seems strange for me to be seen putting forth excuses for both the Egyptian and Saudi governments, both of which aren't exactly "Prince Charming" either.
 

RitalinOhD

Heathen Humanist
Because Hamas is like ISIS to a large extent, and they threaten the security of Egypt and other countries, including the Saudis. Also, the Egyptian and Hamas leaderships are at odds, thoroughly disliking each other.

Seems strange for me to be seen putting forth excuses for both the Egyptian and Saudi governments, both of which aren't exactly "Prince Charming" either.

Who the Hell would support Saudi? They're at the top of the list for human rights violators.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
some people have a talent of " skipp Godobeyer Question " :D

Hi Godobeyer,

No I don't believe all the deaths can be classified as "human shield" deaths.

Let me ask you this question, do you think that the people who are criticizing Israel are asking Israel to behave to a higher standard than other countries are asked to rise to?

For example, why aren't we discussing Syria's treatment and killing of Palestinians?
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
honestly , do you believe that ALL (the Gazans) whom killed and injured used as human shield ?
No.

However, the deaths occurred as well because Hamas rejected the initial ceasefire.

If Hamas accepted it Israel wouldn't have gone into Gaza at all.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Hi Godobeyer,

No I don't believe all the deaths can be classified as "human shield" deaths.

Let me ask you this question, do you think that the people who are criticizing Israel are asking Israel to behave to a higher standard than other countries are asked to rise to?

For example, why aren't we discussing Syria's treatment and killing of Palestinians?
Hi my friend

sorry for late reply

the abusor always blamed , since Israel occupating and seiging so it's blamed because it's used it's power (stronger) to abuse .

let's suppose that you make murder , If the police comes to your house ,and start shot you (you inside the house ) and killing your family for that ? so that fair ?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
No.

However, the deaths occurred as well because Hamas rejected the initial ceasefire.

If Hamas accepted it Israel wouldn't have gone into Gaza at all.
EDITED:
sorry for late reply :
cool, so you knew that not all of Gazans killed because they used as human shield , so why you did not critic Israel army for that ?

is not Israel accept the ceasefire, because ,the Israeli army blamed for human causelty in Gaza, more than it's defeated Hamas ?
 
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icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
And... back to the OP...

Imagine Israel (shudder), gives the WB to the Palestinians. What do we think the WB / Jordan border will look like? Might it look anything like the Gaza / Egypt border? Will it be just another wall in the blockade?
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest

CMike

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by CMike
They should be.

"Israeli hospitals continue to treat sick Gazans despite missile attacks"
Israeli hospitals continue to treat sick Gazans despite missile attacks | JPost | Israel News

"IDF sets up field hospital at Erez border crossing for injured Palestinians"
IDF sets up field hospital at Erez border crossing for injured Palestinians | JPost | Israel News


It seems then that these doctors have a far superior understanding of ethics than you.
Actually thank you for posting this.

It shows that Israel cares more about the Gazans than their actual government does.

:clap
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
It shows that Israel cares more about the Gazans than their actual government does.

:clap

For you, dingleberries are proof that Israel cares more about the Gazans than their actual government does.
 
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