mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I don't agree with you.
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Gender Apartheid
- Thread starter icehorse
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I don't agree with you.
I did not answer your question directly because I think it was a loaded question. I'm sure some women are happy living in Islamic culture. Good for them. But I care about the millions and millions of women who do NOT like living under Sharia.
Pawpatrol
Active Member
Of course not.
If someone knocked on your door "could I please rent a room from you"
"Sure."
Some weeks later they take half of your house (I mean occupy) steal half your furniture, prevent you from accessing the other half, rape your sisters, kill your parents and beat you up a few times — but after that they're like "we want a peace treaty. Lets just live in peace from now on. You there and we here."
I'm sure you'd be fine with that.
How do you conclude that it's Palestinian land? And which land precisely are you saying is Palestinian land?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I get what you are saying. The problem is that it has been 70 years now and there are now 3rd generation Israeli children born there. So there is no fair solution to it if you only favor one side. And a 2 state solution is only fair if both sides agree to it. So I do get that it is not reality fair as such.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
Already told you there is none. What there is though is hamas has had control of Gaza since 2005 and it's a ****hole. AGAIN Israel has done more toward a 2 state solution than Hamas. Hamas CLEARLY states they have no belief in or desire for a 2 state solution.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Please give evidence of that.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
Israel doesnt seem to be going anywhere. Hamas wants to destroy Israel. Then I say let them fight it out.
Israel doesn't seem interested in going anywhere and hamas doesn't seem interested in letting Israel exist so let them kill each other and we can move on. Same thing with Russia and Ukraine. They should all destroy each other so people in the 21 st century can get on with life.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
Already have. This works better if you keep up with the conversation
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
So then you have no problem repeating the links. You made the claim so you have the burden of proof. Not me, so you do the work.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
I have done the work. I'm not your secretary.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
No, I am under no obligation to read 17 pages. It is your claim and your burden of proof. Or I will simply treat it as your personal opinion.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
Where did I claim you are under any obligation to read 17 pages? A burden I already met. I dont really care how you treat it. You clearly ignore facts so I'm not impressed by how you treat anything.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
So you won't prove that you have already posted links. Well, that is just your claim and not evidence. So you still don't meet the burden of proof.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
Not need to they are there. You choose not to look for them. Your choice.
It's smart of you to avoid discussing hamas war crimes.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
So you are not really following the norms of debate. No rationally justified claims and no evidence. Just your personal opinions.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
It's smart of you to avoid discussing hamas war crimes. I would if i were you. Thank God I'm not.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
It is definitely true
Palestinian poll shows a rise in Hamas support and close to 90% wanting US-backed Abbas to resign
The findings signal more difficulties for the Biden administration’s postwar vision for Gaza and raise questions about Israel’s goal of ending Hamas’ capabilities.apnews.com
With that established it may not be justified but explain how Israel should defend itself without killing civilian hamas supporters.
Here is where the killing "civilians" argument goes off the rails. Hamas claims to have no problem with Jews it's the Zionists they don't like. Fine. So on oct 7 how was hamas able to distinguish the zionists from the jews in the people they killed?
Is that your link as to that Israel has done more for a 2 state solution than Hamas?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I accept that both sides have done war crimes. We have already been over that before and I will repeat ir again if I need to. So stop that one. It is get old now and answer the one above this post.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
I put that link up but not for the purpose that you are claiming there.