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Gender Neutral Bathrooms converted back

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
I think how one feels about transgenderism and how they feel about this bathroom stuff are less connected than some suggest. I couldn't care less what you label yourself or what's between your legs tbh. But I do care about creeps, pedophiles, etc. In my HS we had a guy pretend to be gay (confirmed) so he could always go in the girls bathroom, watch them change, etc. Real creep. These open bathrooms, locker rooms, etc only encourage this stuff.

My two cents? As someone with GI issues, as someone traumatized in school bathrooms haha.... just have individual single person bathrooms. A private little business-esque bathroom, one person at a time.
 

McBell

Unbound
I think how one feels about transgenderism and how they feel about this bathroom stuff are less connected than some suggest. I couldn't care less what you label yourself or what's between your legs tbh. But I do care about creeps, pedophiles, etc. In my HS we had a guy pretend to be gay (confirmed) so he could always go in the girls bathroom, watch them change, etc. Real creep. These open bathrooms, locker rooms, etc only encourage this stuff.

My two cents? As someone with GI issues, as someone traumatized in school bathrooms haha.... just have individual single person bathrooms. A private little business-esque bathroom, one person at a time.
Like the Family Bathrooms at Wal-mart?
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
I did once by accident, to do a emergency shave. Women walked in and were not to thrilled to see me finishing up. I was confused but got out fast.
Lol ooops!
I had a umm “women’s emergency”
Didn’t realise my error until I passed by some very confused looking men lol
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Has no one here run into the bathroom opposite to their sex? Like seriously?
I’ve done that multiple times, whilst sober even
No one died
Sure I have. It was a single use womens bathroom. No one in it or in line.
Its not the same as a multi-person bathroom.
 
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ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Most of the restrooms around here are being converted to single use. Privacy walls to the wash area are being taken down to make the wash area public and then stalls are being converted into wholly enclosed rooms with floor to ceiling doors that lock.

Places that had two restrooms still do, but lines are evened out by being equally accessible by all.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Sure I have. It was a single use womens bathroom. No one on it or in line.
Its not the same as a multi-person bathroom.
Oof I can imagine the line up for that on a bad day lol

I dunno. I just feel like the barriers for public bathrooms/toilets/restrooms whatever is a bit outdated and based on nothing really that solid.
I can’t tell you how many times a father has awkwardly asked me to keep an eye on their little toddler, because they wanted to use said room in public. But obviously the father didn’t want to scare the other women. And it always completely distressed the poor child because obviously they were too young to understand why their father was waiting outside. When I’m sure most women would have completely forgiven said man for accompanying their kid.
Maybe even praise him for his dedication.

It’s kind of like the introduction of the male/gender neutral variation of the mother’s changing room. There was an obvious need for the father to help their child in public and they simply couldn’t because the changing rooms only allowed for mothers. This was based on something completely outdated and didn’t allow for the all too common reality of a man performing his fatherly duties in public. Either as a single parent or simply a married father who happened to be shopping or at the beach with their kid/s.

Like we have moved on and there is a genuine need in society that I can see this fulfilling. Even taking out the context of trans or even intersex individuals. People are more complex than simply needing a male and female outlet.
I’m not even arguing for public spaces getting rid of said outlets. Just an addition that may be more suitable for folks in various scenarios.

It’s time to embrace complexity, I think.
 
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icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
An excerpt from the link below:

People say TIMs have a female brain structure, but if they did we wouldn't have to keep explaining this. You wouldn't ignore our silence because you would understand it on a cellular level. Your “gender identity” is meaningless to everyone except you. I can’t see what’s in your head, all I can see is what’s in front of me and what’s in front of me is a man in a dress.

 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
That's not at all a misogynistic perspective.
Think what you want of me and my opinion, but I find the idea that we must protect women(the delicate little flowers they are) in the restroom to be misogynistic to some degree. We don't make the same fuss about seeing the men's room is safe from violent offenders.

I'd be more troubled by a small woman pacing back and forth in the restroom, or strewing used menstrual supplies about(because that totally happens) than a man using the sink. After all, he may be helping a disabled woman in the restroom, perhaps the men's room is down, what do I know? Why should our first thought be "he's here to get me!" I think that's an issue. I'm not making light of a person's feelings that has that response(especially not if they've had an experience that would lend to that), but if that's where people's default position is, I'd say its time to examine why we're so scared of each other.
 
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