Genesis 2

[Thief]

Someone had to be First.

If substance first then all of life is nothing but a complex accident....and terminal.

Man as a mystery without cause....without purpose.

 

[outhouse]

Someone had to be First.

If substance first then all of life is nothing but a complex accident....and terminal.

Man as a mystery without cause....without purpose.

All nonsense.


You have zero evidence for anything you posted.

 

[gnostic]

Someone had to be First.

That's a assumption, based on belief or personal opinion.

It is certainly not based on evidence, therefore not in any way "scientific".

Do you even know what science is?

 

[outhouse]

That's a assumption, based on belief or personal opinion.

It is certainly not based on evidence, therefore not in any way "scientific".

Do you even know what science is?

I told him this exact thing two years ago lol

 

[gnostic]

I told him this exact thing two years ago lol

Thief has a strange view on what science is - where evidences, testings and other form of observations played no part in science, but apparently wishful thinking do.

 

[Thief]

That's a assumption, based on belief or personal opinion.

It is certainly not based on evidence, therefore not in any way "scientific".

Do you even know what science is?

For every cause there is an effect...... for every effect there is a cause.
Basic science.

Without the connection no science experiment can be sure.

Look up...the (one word) universe is there.
It had a Cause.

No one gets to separate One from the other.

No assumption on my part.

 

[outhouse]

No assumption on my part.

100% assumption due to your severe scientific ignorance

 

[Thief]

Thief has a strange view on what science is - where evidences, testings and other form of observations played no part in science, but apparently wishful thinking do.

The experiment was complete long before us.
Look up.
The results are there.

That you are not able to repeat the experiment......too bad.

Separating cause and effect is not science.

 

[outhouse]

Separating cause and effect is not science.

Watch special rules come up when your asked what caused spirit LOL :slap:

 

[outhouse]

Spirits do not scientifically exist, so please stop the unsubstantiated nonsense unless you have some kind of credible evidence to bring to the table.

Because your opinion is not credible when describing reality

 

[Thief]

Reality is not beyond us.
You just have to think about it.

 

[outhouse]

Reality is not beyond us.
You just have to think about it.

Then you should be able to describe this "sprit" in full detail if it is part of reality.


Who created it?

What does it do?

What can be attributed to it?

Where did it come from?

 

[Thief]

Then you should be able to describe this "sprit" in full detail if it is part of reality.


Who created it?

What does it do?

What can be attributed to it?

Where did it come from?

Now that your head is facing the right direction.....think about it.
Put down your history book.
Grab a cigar and some amoretto.

Relax.

 

[outhouse]

.
Grab a cigar and some amoretto.

.

I dont drink or smoke.


Nor take advise from those that proselytize wilful ignorance

 

[Thief]

Now ....now .....now.....

and I still say Genesis makes good sense.

 

[outhouse]

Now ....now .....now.....

and I still say Genesis makes good sense.

It makes perfect sense as theology, written in mythology using metaphor and allegory, after long standing traditions were collected and compiled together over centuries.

 

[Thief]

It makes perfect sense as theology, written in mythology using metaphor and allegory, after long standing traditions were collected and compiled together over centuries.

I equate theology with common sense and logic.
Of course I do leave the dogma alone.

 

[sincerly]

Originally Posted by Thief
Now ....now .....now.....
and I still say Genesis makes good sense.

It makes perfect sense as theology, written in mythology using metaphor and allegory, after long standing traditions were collected and compiled together over centuries.

Yes, it does make perfect sense theologically because it was the Creator GOD who made all that is seen; and Life only comes from life as Pasteur proved those many years ago.
There is no myth in the reality of "Life". Whether that life is plant or animal, "scholars or scientist" has not given "life" to inorganic material.
Believe what one "has faith in"---evolution or by a Creator GOD---the "TRUTH" of the "Fact" will be known in the "future".
And "probability" is not "Factual". The Trees and animals I see are Factual.

 

[outhouse]

I equate theology with common sense and logic.
Of course I do leave the dogma alone.

From what I see you do the exact opposite.

You create what you want out of spirituality with absolutely no evidence of any kind.

To me, it is from wish and want and a combination of ancient mythology all mixed together in your own little version.

 

[outhouse]

Yes, it does make perfect sense theologically because it was the Creator GOD who made all that is seen;
.

Yet there is not one bit or even the smallest shred of evidence, your personal deity not worshipped by even a third of the world, has every done anything, let alone create everything

and Life only comes from life as Pasteur proved those many years ago.

Nonsense.

he did not prove anything about life only coming from life.


On a side note, I love how you pick and choose which science you will and will not accept.


Bet your hiney when you have a heart attack or stroke you be begging for 100% of science to buy you as much more time then you would have without it.


Hypocritical is what it is called.