Genesis 2

[outhouse]

Please take a class on reading comprehension. Its obvious by your reply you do not understand what is being implied here as fact.

Not one aspect of the facts deals with any part of abiogenesis.
It is called "comprehension".
Before debating it is critical that you understand what this is.

 

[Thief]

Dead things do not make living things.

Spirit first.

 

[sincerly]

Please take a class on reading comprehension. Its obvious by your reply you do not understand what is being implied here as fact.

Not one aspect of the facts deals with any part of abiogenesis.
It is called "comprehension".
Before debating it is critical that you understand what this is.

Outhouse, Posting your very same opinions and those of the IAP multiple times doesn't make it so.
A theory ("opinions" by a membership of persons) without the very important "details" which they admit to as lacking doesn't make anything attested to as "fact". It is still the "faith" they have in that which they admit they believe, but cannot prove.

Your Faith in them(IAP) is mis-placed; however, the Scriptures explain that condition as deluded.

No amount of reposting that IAP confession will change the affirmation of a lack of details. Therefore, What part of that statement do you NOT comprehend?

 

[outhouse]

YOU have not been able to refute a single word.

YOU are no match against the brightest minds in every country around the world.

YOU do not get to discount them with any credibility.


This is viewed a truth for most of the educated world, and contains substantiated facts to back their position.

IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution

We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:

•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin.

 

[outhouse]

Please learn what the word FACT is, then we can start on comprehension.

 

[sincerly]

YOU have not been able to refute a single word.

YOU are no match against the brightest minds in every country around the world.

YOU do not get to discount them with any credibility.


This is viewed a truth for most of the educated world, and contains substantiated facts to back their position.

IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution

We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:

•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin.

This is the admitted "Fact" as seen in Red of your continued posting; and reposting will not change that Fact.
The "these results" is in relation to the following beliefs of the IAP. Which is continuing to be "THEORY".

 

[outhouse]

Please learn what the word FACT is, then we can start on comprehension.


YOU have not been able to refute a single word.

YOU are no match against the brightest minds in every country around the world.

YOU do not get to discount them with any credibility.

 

[sincerly]

Please learn what the word FACT is, then we can start on comprehension.

YOU have not been able to refute a single word.

YOU are no match against the brightest minds in every country around the world.

YOU do not get to discount them with any credibility.

I wasn't refuting and the "credibility" all was in their "statement"---just pointing out the admission of all those "brightest minds".
""""""NO "Details".""""""
The comprehension is lacking on your part.

 

[outhouse]

Please learn what the word FACT is, then we can start on comprehension.


YOU have not been able to refute a single word.

YOU are no match against the brightest minds in every country around the world.

YOU do not get to discount them with any credibility.


One does not need all the details of gravity, yet the apple factually falls to the ground. Gravity factually exist yet we do not know all the details.

 

[outhouse]

YOU cannot even prove your god exist outside mythology.

Let alone start attributing things to him.


YOU have no credible evidence at all.

 

[sincerly]

One does not need all the details of gravity, yet the apple factually falls to the ground. Gravity factually exist yet we do not know all the details.

True, and we see the terrain,flora and fauna about us . However, without the "Details" for the how's and why's one cannot claim "Fact" for the "theories" presented. And that is what the "IAP Statement" attests to lacking.

The Scriptures do attest to the How's and the Why's of everything one sees about them. Your group of men are still attempting to find the information. It is within that book which they claim as "myth".

 

[sincerly]

YOU cannot even prove your god exist outside mythology.

Let alone start attributing things to him.

YOU have no credible evidence at all.

The Bible/Scriptures and the Human writers along with their personal experiencing GOD'S mighty acts/miracles preformed and recorded are Proof for me.

The very "all things about me" is more proof of GOD'S existance that trying to believe that life sprang from inorganic matter which just hppened.

 

[outhouse]

, without the "Details" for the how's and why's one cannot claim "Fact" for the "theories" presented. ".

Actually they can.

Speciation has been observed. Evolution factually happens.


Gravity is fact, the apple falls. Yet we do not have all the details, we know less about gravity then evolution, yet gravity is FACT.

 

[outhouse]

Proof for me.

Exactly, its personal. That is all. It is called faith, and nothing more.

trying to believe that life sprang from inorganic matter which just hppened .

The AIP does not state abiogenesis is fact, nor does it mention anything about life coming from inorganic matter.

Could you stay on topic please!

 

[outhouse]

YOU cannot even prove your god exist outside mythology.

Let alone start attributing things to him.

YOU have no credible evidence at all.

I am providing facts according to the brightest groups of educated people in the world, from every major country, And what they claim as fact. You only bring religion to the table, and nothing else.

 

[sincerly]

True, and we see the terrain,flora and fauna about us . However, without the "Details" for the how's and why's one cannot claim "Fact" for the "theories" presented. And that is what the "IAP Statement" attests to lacking.

The Scriptures do attest to the How's and the Why's of everything one sees about them. Your group of men are still attempting to find the information. It is within that book which they claim as "myth".

Actually they can.

Speciation has been observed. Evolution factually happens.
Gravity is fact, the apple falls. Yet we do not have all the details, we know less about gravity then evolution, yet gravity is FACT.

"Claiming" fact is one thing, but they acknowledge that the "details" of their theories has not been proven. Therefore, their claims of "fact" are not factual.
Speciation isn't evolution, it is only the ordering of the DNA in a speciation to show another possibility of re-combination of the genes.

Yes, your IAP statement attests to the lack of "details" to prove their theories as facts.
Like gravity---this earth and everything on it is real---Fact, but like gravity and your attestation---

Gravity is fact, the apple falls. Yet we do not have all the details, we know less about gravity then evolution, yet gravity is FACT.

Neither is there actual "details" for the evolutionary process--as admitted. The earth and all on it is present, but the reasons for it being present is still unproven theories by man.----as admitted by the IAP.

However, GOD explains it all to those who hear and have the wisdom to discern HIS TRUTH.

 

[sincerly]

Exactly, its personal. That is all. It is called faith, and nothing more.

The AIP does not state abiogenesis is fact, nor does it mention anything about life coming from inorganic matter.

Could you stay on topic please!

That "personal faith" is the very same that "believes the word" of those evolutionist.

I have been on the topic and this is part of that IAP statement which alludes to the beginningof life and the evolutionary process.
"""We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines."""

Those are the details which are lacking. Where did the earth come from? and How did "life" come from the life-less".

 

[sincerly]

YOU cannot even prove your god exist outside mythology.

Let alone start attributing things to him.

YOU have no credible evidence at all.

I am providing facts according to the brightest groups of educated people in the world, from every major country, And what they claim as fact. You only bring religion to the table, and nothing else.

The "brightest groups of educated people in the world" according to you admit that they do not have the necessary "details" to the most fundamental information to establish their theories as fact. They even claim fact for their suppositions in many areas of the entire events.

 

[outhouse]

YOU have not been able to refute a single word.

YOU are no match against the brightest minds in every country around the world.

YOU do not get to discount them with any credibility.


This is viewed a truth for most of the educated world, theist included, and contains substantiated facts to back their position.

IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution

We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:

•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin.

 

[Thief]

Back to topic......

Man as a species.....Day Six.
No names, no garden, no law....
Go forth be fruitful and multiply.
Dominate all things.
We did.

Day Seven....rest.
No more will be created.

THEN Chapter Two.....a story of manipulation.
A specimen is chosen, ideal living conditions are provided.
The specimen is laid to sleep and a sample tissue is removed.
That sample is cloned.

Adam is given his twin sister for a bride.
Eve had no navel.