Genesis 2

[sincerly]

Originally Posted by outhouse View Post
Your god is so weak he had to act like a human to do something???

Nice you placing limits on gods

Quote:
Now if could place limits on imagination, you would have something.

And placing limits on "spirit" as well. I guess "spirits" have to use physical means to achieve anything.

GOD Created. Mankind for the most part has defied the restraints which GOD placed upon mankind to keep him from acting like the brute beast. The "imagination" continues to be "evil continually".

 

[outhouse]

GOD Created. Mankind for the most part has defied the restraints which GOD placed upon mankind to keep him from acting like the brute beast. The "imagination" continues to be "evil continually".

Sounds like MYTHOLOGY.

 

[sincerly]

Originally Posted by sincerly View Post
GOD Created. Mankind for the most part has defied the restraints which GOD placed upon mankind to keep him from acting like the brute beast. The "imagination" continues to be "evil continually".

Sounds like MYTHOLOGY.

Even Ripley acknowledged that Truth was stranger than fiction---and Evolution still has a lot of "Details" which are acknowledged as not known---therefore, still under that unproven supposed Theory.---which falls under the heading of myth.

 

[Bunyip]

Originally Posted by sincerly View Post
GOD Created. Mankind for the most part has defied the restraints which GOD placed upon mankind to keep him from acting like the brute beast. The "imagination" continues to be "evil continually".



Even Ripley acknowledged that Truth was stranger than fiction---and Evolution still has a lot of "Details" which are acknowledged as not known---therefore, still under that unproven supposed Theory.---which falls under the heading of myth.

Theories are never proven - theories explain what has already been proven. THEORIES are explanations.

 

[Thief]

Theories are never proven - theories explain what has already been proven. THEORIES are explanations.

The center portion is contrary.
If it is proven....it's no longer theory and moves to fact or 'law'.

 

[Bunyip]

The center portion is contrary.
If it is proven....it's no longer theory and moves to fact or 'law'.

No, you have that totally wrong I'm afraid.

Theories are never proven, they are ABOVE facts and laws. A theory does not graduate to a fact or a law, theories explain facts and laws.

Theory is how we explain the facts that have already been proven.

 

[Thief]

Your god is so weak he had to act like a human to do something???


Nice you placing limits on gods


Now if could place limits on imagination, you would have something.

Strong enough to play by the rules He makes.
Chemistry has rules.

And God is of course allowed to tweak His creations He sees fit.

 

[Thief]

No, you have that totally wrong I'm afraid.

Theories are never proven, they are ABOVE facts and laws. A theory does not graduate to a fact or a law, theories explain facts and laws.

Theory is how we explain the facts that have already been proven.

I have a thread for this.
Please find and report.

 

[Bunyip]

I have a thread for this.
Please find and report.

Theories explain the facts, they are superior to facts. In science theory is the ultimate graduation point of a body of knowledge. Superior to fact and law.

If you have posted similar misconceptions in another thread - why would I want to report upon it, when I have addressed it here?

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

Like this.....
Put the Man to sleep....anesthesia.
Cut a rib out of him....surgery.
Increase that sample to full stature....cloning.
Force the clone to form as a female....genetic manipulation.

She would be his twin sister.
She would have no navel.

Once again, clones are genetically identical. You cannot "clone" a male into a female, because it would no longer be considered a "clone." The genetic makeup of the two would be different.
Also, cloning is done by taking the unfertilized egg of an already existing female, taking out its nucleus, and replacing it with cells from the specimen they are cloning. For this to have happened, an egg from an already existing female would have to be used. I think the word you are actually looking for is "magic."

 

[outhouse]

Strong enough to play by the rules He makes.
.

Those rules must be imaginary.

Because they are not detected and have no effect on life for the rest of us.

 

[gnostic]

Don't skip the source of the material.....
Don't skip the manipulation....

What genesis is describing, is not cloning. Cloning is the exact copy of the original.

Eve is not a copy of Adam, and since Eve has different sex organs to Adam, she is not Adam's clone.

As to source of material. Bone (like Adam's rib) is not best material to use in cloning.

 

[Ouroboros]

The center portion is contrary.
If it is proven....it's no longer theory and moves to fact or 'law'.

No. That's a common misconception about science that "law" is somehow bigger or stronger version of "theory". Fact, law, and theory are three different categories of science. Theories don't become laws in science. Theories are a lot more complex and encompass facts and laws.

 

[gnostic]

No. That's a common misconception about science that "law" is somehow bigger or stronger version of "theory". Fact, law, and theory are three different categories of science. Theories don't become laws in science. Theories are a lot more complex and encompass facts and laws.

Explain it all you want, he won't get it.

He has been here long enough, and many people have explain what he doesn't understand about theory, but he refused to learn.

Just because he believe in god, he think he smarter than everyone else, so he can't learn something new or have the ability to recognise his own mistake and tried to learn from it.

 

[outhouse]

Explain it all you want, he won't get it.

He has been here long enough, and many people have explain what he doesn't understand about theory, but he refused to learn.

Just because he believe in god, he think he smarter than everyone else, so he can't learn something new or have the ability to recognise his own mistake and tried to learn from it.

I believe it is age.

People get too old and their minds shut like steel traps.

Nothing gets in.

 

[sincerly]

Originally Posted by sincerly View Post
GOD Created. Mankind for the most part has defied the restraints which GOD placed upon mankind to keep him from acting like the brute beast. The "imagination" continues to be "evil continually".

Even Ripley acknowledged that Truth was stranger than fiction---and Evolution still has a lot of "Details" which are acknowledged as not known---therefore, still under that unproven supposed Theory.---which falls under the heading of myth.

Theories are never proven - theories explain what has already been proven. THEORIES are explanations.

Theories are ideas which are thought exist---expected---but not yet observed.
Therefore, there is a need for theories to be shown to seen by proof for what they were expected to represent.

Evolution has "details" which can not be replicated---only surmised(theorized)---and those "details" are lacking.

 

[sincerly]

I believe it is age.

People get too old and their minds shut like steel traps.

Nothing gets in.

Especially, false beliefs---contrary to the Scriptural account.

 

[outhouse]

Im waiting for you to refute this credible knowledge.




Key phrase, "lets work with facts" Im waiting.


Lets work with facts, not your biased opinion.

IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution

We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:
•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin

 

[JM2C]

•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years,

Genesis 1:1-A In the beginning God created the heavens,

our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.

Genesis 1:1-B and the earth.

Can you tell the time between verse 1 and verse 2 of Genesis chapter 1?

When do you think time started? Or how time started? And from what?

 

[sincerly]

Im waiting for you to refute this credible knowledge.

Key phrase, "lets work with facts" Im waiting.

Lets work with facts, not your biased opinion.

IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution

We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:
•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin

Outhouse, the "Facts" are as I have presented and the IAP acknowledges(refutes your claims):.
" Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:"
Does the IAP provide the "evidence" that elements are produced from "Nothing?" In any or one of their "observed experiments? NO!
Has the IAP shown the world that it has produced "LIFE" from existing elements or even dead organic matter? NO!

Therefore, evolution as they have claimed exists is lacking in those "details" that are essential to the claim that What we all observe is the result of that which they claim.

Until you(they) can produce the elements of the periodic table for "NOTHING" and then "LIFE" from those same elements, I will continue to believe the Scriptural account of the Creator GOD WHO did Create all that one sees.

Therefore, you are waiting upon yourself/them. They, already, admit the lack of "details".