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Genesis 2

sincerly

Well-Known Member
Genesis 1:1-A In the beginning God created the heavens,


Genesis 1:1-B and the earth.

Can you tell the time between verse 1 and verse 2 of Genesis chapter 1?

When do you think time started? Or how time started? And from what?

Hi JM2C, the evidence of logic used by some scientist seems to be Lines A + B are equal in length. A piece of Rope is equal in length to lines A + B . Also. a link of sausage it the same length as lines A + B. Therefore, the rope and the sausage are the same.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
the evidence of logic used by some scientist seems to be Lines A + B are equal in length. A piece of Rope is equal in length to lines A + B . Also. a link of sausage it the same length as lines A + B. Therefore, the rope and the sausage are the same.

Stop perverting what you know nothing about. :facepalm:
 

Triumphant_Loser

Libertarian Egalitarian
Hi JM2C, the evidence of logic used by some scientist seems to be Lines A + B are equal in length. A piece of Rope is equal in length to lines A + B . Also. a link of sausage it the same length as lines A + B. Therefore, the rope and the sausage are the same.

Then there's creationist logic... "The sausage and rope are the same because someone wrote a book that says the sausage and rope are the same."
 

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
Then there's creationist logic... "The sausage and rope are the same because someone wrote a book that says the sausage and rope are the same."
God wrote the Bible. The OT is longer than the NT, therefore the NT is better. Except for Genesis, there is no equal. If God said that in the beginning that he created sausages, then by golly, he did. It doesn't matter how long the rope was.
 

Triumphant_Loser

Libertarian Egalitarian
God wrote the Bible. The OT is longer than the NT, therefore the NT is better. Except for Genesis, there is no equal. If God said that in the beginning that he created sausages, then by golly, he did. It doesn't matter how long the rope was.

What, the Old Testament doesn't matter anymore? You mean I can't kill my next door neighbor for mowing his lawn on Sunday?
 
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CG Didymus

Veteran Member
What, the New Testament doesn't matter anymore? You mean I can't kill my next door neighbor for mowing his lawn on Sunday?
No, no, you've got it all wrong. In Gen 2 it says God made man some helpers. They've got to mow the lawn, but it's better they do it on Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath. That way your neighbor can go to Church with you on Sunday and after, you guys can watch football or something. I think killing your neighbor might taking the Bible a little out of context. I think it says you can get stoned with him. At least that's how I interpret it.
 

sincerly

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by sincerly View Post
the evidence of logic used by some scientist seems to be Lines A + B are equal in length. A piece of Rope is equal in length to lines A + B . Also. a link of sausage it the same length as lines A + B. Therefore, the rope and the sausage are the same

Stop perverting what you know nothing about. :facepalm:

That was only using comparative analogies of their methods, but let's use what they claim as evidence.
All forms of life has cell/cells. Whether plant or animal. Therefore, that characteristic is evidence that all things has a "common primordial origin/ancestor".
Structural DNA in things is similar, therefore, all things are from the same "common primordial origin.
Water is necessary for new life to be brought to maturity--whether plant seed or in a womb/placenta like environment(egg). The commonality is "evidence" for the "primordial origin".
Therefore, because the "Details" are lacking, the "common observed characteristics" are NOT factual evidence to the theory of evolution being fact---it is Wrong! A "common primordial origin" isn't even co-incidental because the Scriptures declare that GOD Created it All. HE designed of Creation was without flaws from the microscopic to the enormous heavenly solar system.

Isa,64:4 and 1Cor.2:9, "But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him."
Yes, Man is "fearfully and wonderfully made"--Not the random chance of a spontaneous explosion which produces some elemental material which just happened to by chance spring to life in a variety of ways---in an atmosphere which had not sustaining features.

Outhouse, your faith has to be greater than mine to believe the theories upon which evolution is presented. Possibly your scientist will discover that the necessary "details" are all presented in that BOOK which they loath.
 

sincerly

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by sincerly View Post
Hi JM2C, the evidence of logic used by some scientist seems to be Lines A + B are equal in length. A piece of Rope is equal in length to lines A + B . Also. a link of sausage it the same length as lines A + B. Therefore, the rope and the sausage are the same.

Then there's creationist logic... "The sausage and rope are the same because someone wrote a book that says the sausage and rope are the same."

NO! TL, the inspired Book that the Prophets wrote as directed by GOD gave the facts of Creation and the destiny of mankind---depending on their choices.
 

sincerly

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Triumphant_Loser View Post
Then there's creationist logic... "The sausage and rope are the same because someone wrote a book that says the sausage and rope are the same."

God wrote the Bible. The OT is longer than the NT, therefore the NT is better. Except for Genesis, there is no equal. If God said that in the beginning that he created sausages, then by golly, he did. It doesn't matter how long the rope was.

CG D, Am I detecting that there is a Creator GOD?

The writers of the NT had no New messages/ teachings. All they taught was quoted/understood as coming from the OT.
 

sincerly

Well-Known Member
What, the New Testament doesn't matter anymore? You mean I can't kill my next door neighbor for mowing his lawn on Sunday?

TL, Yes, the NT is still valid as it was based the OT writings and they were included from the OT.
Killing is never wise when GOD says vengeance is HIS.
There is predicted a day coming when one may be condemned to death for mowing their grass on Sunday.
 

Triumphant_Loser

Libertarian Egalitarian
TL, Yes, the NT is still valid as it was based the OT writings and they were included from the OT.
Killing is never wise when GOD says vengeance is HIS.
There is predicted a day coming when one may be condemned to death for mowing their grass on Sunday.

Whoops I meant Old Testament. I am ashamed of myself.:eek::facepalm:
 

outhouse

Atheistically
m waiting for you to refute this credible knowledge.

It is the rules to proselytizing over and over as well, but it doesn't stop you.


Key phrase, "lets work with facts" Im waiting.


Lets work with facts, not your biased opinion.

IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution

We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:
•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin
 

sincerly

Well-Known Member
m waiting for you to refute this credible knowledge.

It is the rules to proselytizing over and over as well, but it doesn't stop you.


Key phrase, "lets work with facts" Im waiting.


Lets work with facts, not your biased opinion.

IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution

We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:
•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin

The scriptures are the reason for this portion of the debate forum and that is what I have been doing--- showing what the Scriptures have said. Evolution is not sanctioned in the Scriptures. Therefore, you are proselytizing the "BELIEF" of the "Theory of evolution".

SINCE you continue to repost that which has been shown to lack "details which are the foundation for the conclusion I will repost my last post.

""""""That was only using comparative analogies of their methods, but let's use what they claim as evidence.
All forms of life has cell/cells. Whether plant or animal. Therefore, that characteristic is evidence that all things has a "common primordial origin/ancestor".
Structural DNA in things is similar, therefore, all things are from the same "common primordial origin.
Water is necessary for new life to be brought to maturity--whether plant seed or in a womb/placenta like environment(egg). The commonality is "evidence" for the "primordial origin".
Therefore, because the "Details" are lacking, the "common observed characteristics" are NOT factual evidence to the theory of evolution being fact---it is Wrong! A "common primordial origin" isn't even co-incidental because the Scriptures declare that GOD Created it All. HE designed of Creation was without flaws from the microscopic to the enormous heavenly solar system.

Isa,64:4 and 1Cor.2:9, "But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him."
Yes, Man is "fearfully and wonderfully made"--Not the random chance of a spontaneous explosion which produces some elemental material which just happened to by chance spring to life in a variety of ways---in an atmosphere which had not sustaining features.

Outhouse, your faith has to be greater than mine to believe the theories upon which evolution is presented. Possibly your scientist will discover that the necessary "details" are all presented in that BOOK which they loath.""""
 

outhouse

Atheistically
m waiting for you to refute this credible knowledge.

It is the rules to proselytizing over and over as well, but it doesn't stop you.


Key phrase, "lets work with facts" Im waiting.


Lets work with facts, not your biased opinion.

IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution

We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:
•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Outhouse, your faith has to be greater than mine to believe the theories upon which evolution is presented.

Well you are factually wrong again.



Evolution is taught worldwide as higher learning in EVERY major university un the world.

Creation is outlawed from school children and labeled as pseudoscience :facepalm:
 

sincerly

Well-Known Member
m waiting for you to refute this credible knowledge.

It is the rules to proselytizing over and over as well, but it doesn't stop you.


Key phrase, "lets work with facts" Im waiting.

Outhouse, the "fact" is(and posted by you) that """Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change,...
When you acknowledge that connecting ideas/evidence/suppositions/etc. isn't a "truth/fact/reality/etc." until ALL the Details are proved correct, then is credibility achieved.
I accept the Scriptural reported version of the Creation of ALL Things.
You accept the man improvised/theorized by mankind's version which even those scientist admit are lacking in proven "details"---not to mention is subject to change as more information is obtained.
The trouble is---they reject the very records which attest to the REAL SOURCE for ALL that one visualizes and comprehends about ones self.

Prov.14:12, "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. "
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Outhouse,

Knows how to use the quote feature. unlike you :facepalm:


You have no credibility here to say anything against science. :facepalm:


It is embarrassing to humanity, that people discount what they know nothing about, trying to trash education and knowledge. :facepalm:
 

Triumphant_Loser

Libertarian Egalitarian
Well you are factually wrong again.



Evolution is taught worldwide as higher learning in EVERY major university un the world.

Creation is outlawed from school children and labeled as pseudoscience :facepalm:

And even if Creation were to be taught in our schools, which account would we even use? There are over 2,000 religions in the world, each with differing accounts. We certainly couldn't cram all of them along with actual credible science into one curriculum.
 

sincerly

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by sincerly View Post
Outhouse, your faith has to be greater than mine to believe the theories upon which evolution is presented.

Well you are factually wrong again.
Evolution is taught worldwide as higher learning in EVERY major university un the world.

Creation is outlawed from school children and labeled as pseudoscience :facepalm:

Where something is taught is not the criteria or definition of "Faith".
NOR does where something is taught a guarantee that it is truthful/right.
Mankind has a habit of falsifying/placing in false light/mislabeling the truths of the Bible/Scriptures.
 
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