Vorkosigan
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You can’t justify all the death and suffering. You just can’t.
A creator of the universe would have to be a sadistic murderer or a lousy designer.
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Genetic Code is INFORMATION: Proof of Intelligent Design
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You can’t justify all the death and suffering. You just can’t.
A creator of the universe would have to be a sadistic murderer or a lousy designer.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Is it due to a bad design that humans kill other humans? wars,crimes ..etc
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
To answer your question, I have to ask you first a related question.
Why we don't have tsunami everyday and everywhere? why we don't have a disastrous earthquakes
everyday and everywhere?why we don't have comets that can eliminate life on earth?
Do you have a better answer than "it's all about luck"
Is it because Poseidon is too lazy to make that many of them?
Vorkosigan
Member
It could be argued that yes, it is. But I was talkig about the millions of years of death and suffering, not just human.
If your point is that this suffering is a mean god uses to accomplish something, well that's just immoral.
Altfish
Veteran Member
. It is nothing to do with 'luck' these are only occasional events. The planet we live on is unstable, the continents are still moving around, much of it is not suitable for human's to live on. Many areas where the tectonic plates meet are exceptionally susceptible to these sorts of disasters. Hence the likes of Japan suffer more than other places. I'm fairly lucky living in the UK, flooding is the only major issue here and much of that is not helped by badly planned developments.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
No one is lucky, a disaster may happen at any time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthquakes_in_the_British_Isles
But that would make the disaster a result of chance... isn't a theist supposed to believe that a disaster can only happen if their god wants it to happen?
Altfish
Veteran Member
Yes, I've felt some, but they are benign and not really 'disasters' when compared to ones in Japan, US, Spain, etc. I may be wrong but I don't think there has even been a single fatality due to an earthquake in the UK.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
My question then remains, why disastrous earthquakes don't happen everyday,
what makes earth stable while it can be not?
Can't we realize it as a message from God that it's because of me that the earth remains stable?
God said in clear words that whatever we do with the disbelievers they still won't believe and then
no one to blame but themselves for what they had chosen.
This is an image of a mosque in Indonesia, everything has gone but only this mosque was standing
to tell us something, that the mosque due to nature and luck was the only thing to survive.
The earth would remain stable without your God. Earthquakes wouldn't happen everyday even without your God.
It tells us that the mosque was built so sturdy that it withstood the destructive forces. Try a little logic, reason and common sense before jumping to religious conclusions.
This is an image of a mosque in Indonesia, everything has gone but only this mosque was standing
to tell us something, that the mosque due to nature and luck was the only thing to survive.
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FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
The mosque was more powerful than Tsunami, are you speculating?
It's still there so it obviously was. You are the one speculating if you claim that some god protected it. It was obviously built strong enough to withstand the forces. On the other hand, if it had been made out of cardboard you would have a point.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
You're speculating that all other buildings weren't as strong as the mosque,all buildings
were collapsed and only one building remained which is the mosque, so it's a coincident
that all other buildings were not strong enough to resist tsunami, coincidences and luck
is what you believe in, watch this video and see how by coincidence a miracle happened
but some think it was God and some others like you will believe in the coincidences.
ROTFL no it wasn't a coincidence that the other buildings weren't strong enough they weren't built strong enough to be able to resist it. Seriously, are you deliberately trying to avoid any logical and rational explanation or does it just come naturally?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
ROTFL no it wasn't a coincidence that the other buildings weren't strong enough they weren't built strong enough to be able to resist it. Seriously, are you deliberately trying to avoid any logical and rational explanation or does it just come naturally?
Is there any logic for us to be here on this earth for awhile and then to leave?
What is the logic behind it, procreation
Why there is life and death? and some will leave and others will come?
explain it in your logic.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Of course it is. If you were designing a creature, wouldn't you make it nice, co-operative, non-violent, and so on?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Except if i made him with a free will.
It's just how the world works. It's the natural and logical result of the natural processes called evolution and natural selection.