Genetic Code is INFORMATION: Proof of Intelligent Design

[McBell]

This theory says nothing other than there was always a thing with no beginning than nothingness.
That what the prophets had already said "God always exist".

God is about 6.3 billion years old.

 

[FearGod]

God is about 6.3 billion years old.

God has no fixed date, God is eternal and always existing.
You accepted that a thing was always existing but you don't want that thing to be God, you want
it to be the inanimate and the unconscious thing.

Live with your dreams.

 

[ArtieE]

This theory says nothing other than there was always a thing with no beginning than nothingness.
That what the prophets had already said "God always exist".

If "God always exist" what did God supposedly create the universe from?

A. Nothing.
B. He took himself or part of himself and transformed into the universe.
C. He took something other than himself that already existed and transformed into the universe.
D. Nothing at all was created God just is the universe.

 

[FearGod]

If "God always exist" what did God supposedly create the universe from?

A. Nothing.
B. He took himself or part of himself and transformed into the universe.
C. He took something other than himself that already existed and transformed into the universe.
D. Nothing at all was created God just is the universe.

I don't have the knowledge as to know how God did it but at least God had pointed out clearly
that the universe was a one united piece before God separated it and then expanding it, moreover
he pointed out that it was smoke, for me it's more than enough to realize that such sayings
aren't the words of people living thousands years ago, actually back at that era saying that
the whole universe was one piece and being smoke and continuously expanding won't
make any sense at all, we today believe it because of science.

 

[ArtieE]

I don't have the knowledge as to know how God did it but at least God had pointed out clearly that the universe was a one united piece before God separated it and then expanding it

So what you are saying is that in the beginning there was a God and one united piece that God separated and expanded. If you don't know whether God created this united piece in the first place you have no reason to claim that God created anything.

 

[FearGod]

So what you are saying is that in the beginning there was a God and one united piece that God separated and expanded. If you don't know whether God created this united piece in the first place you have no reason to claim that God created anything.

Not important to me, the important thing to me that they were telling the truth and
I have to believe that it's serious and not kidding.

The prophet after delivering the message and when he felt that he was going to leave
the planet earth, he asked people to gather to listen to his final sermon in which he
said that he may not meet them once again and it was to warn them and to ask them to
deliver the message to the next generations.

 

[McBell]

God has no fixed date, God is eternal and always existing.
You accepted that a thing was always existing but you don't want that thing to be God, you want
it to be the inanimate and the unconscious thing.

Live with your dreams.

the universe has always existed and god is only 6.3 billion years old.

That you can not prove otherwise is most comical.

 

[AndromedaRXJ]

You accepted that a thing was always existing but you don't want that thing to be God, you want
it to be the inanimate and the unconscious thing.

Professes that conscious life requires a creator. Also professes that a particular conscious life has always existed.

See the problem here?

 

[FearGod]

Professes that conscious life requires a creator. Also professes that a particular conscious life has always existed.

See the problem here?

And how could you know what kind of thing that was always existing, you can easily agree
that it existed and it was always existing, but you don't believe it to be God, it can be anything
but not God.

See the problem here?

 

[McBell]

See the problem here?

The problem as I see it is that you have difficulty with reading comprehension.
Of course, this is assuming you are not being dishonest.

 

[AndromedaRXJ]

And how could you know what kind of thing that was always existing, you can easily agree
that it existed and it was always existing, but you don't believe it to be God, it can be anything
but not God.

See the problem here?

I never said it couldn't be God. You just have to prove it. You're the one who thinks it couldn't be anything else.

 

[FearGod]

I never said it couldn't be God. You just have to prove it. You're the one who thinks it couldn't be anything else.

So that's it, we can't prove what that thing is, for me it's God the creator of the universe,
for you it's a thing but not necessarily God.

 

[Vorkosigan]

I believe you have misread me. I am not advocating alternative standards are valid nor sound but exist and are believed. I am pointing out that people are taught a number of standards over their lifetime that are not compatible with each other and/or even viable within specific fields of science. People will attempt to resolve this issue rather than abandon a belief they have held for a majority of their life-time. It is not about scientific discovery, it is about resolving mental and religious issues.

I don’t get your point. English is not my first language, maybe that’s the reason. I would appreciate some clarification if you have the time.

 

[Vorkosigan]

So that's it, we can't prove what that thing is, for me it's God the creator of the universe,
for you it's a thing but not necessarily God.

Are you afraid of what will happen to you after you die?

 

[FearGod]

Are you afraid of what will happen to you after you die?

I didn't think about that, i think about my recent and future life on earth.

 

[Vorkosigan]

God has no fixed date, God is eternal and always existing.
You accepted that a thing was always existing but you don't want that thing to be God, you want
it to be the inanimate and the unconscious thing.

Live with your dreams.

If it’s a thing or a conscious being, (or anything else that you cannot even begin to imagine), it will be revealed by the scientific method eventually.
I thought you were on a hurry to make a choice because you were afraid of dying and going to hell or something. But if you say you are not, then why do you force yourself to make such an uneducated guess?

 

[FearGod]

If it’s a thing or a conscious being, (or anything else that you cannot even begin to imagine), it will be revealed by the scientific method eventually.
I thought you were on a hurry to make a choice because you were afraid of dying and going to hell or something. But if you say you are not, then why do you force yourself to make such an uneducated guess?

If you have a good religious education then you may have another opinion, but
you had chose to wait for science to prove how the universe had came to existence
and to prove to you that God doesn't exist, I wish you good luck with such dreams.
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[Vorkosigan]

If you have a good religious education then you may have another opinion, but

you had chose to wait for science to prove how the universe had came to existence

and to prove to you that God doesn't exist, I wish you good luck with such dreams.

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Science can never prove that god doesn’t exist. It’s like proving that unicorns don’t exist. And some people will always find a gap for their deity. Besides, no scientist would waste the time.
Back to the topic, there is no proof of intelligent design. Only of stupid/immoral design, or natural causes.

 

[Shad]

I don’t get your point. English is not my first language, maybe that’s the reason. I would appreciate some clarification if you have the time.

People throughout their lives are exposed to ideas from different influences which are developed by different methods. There is no single set of standards we all follow thus as humans we develop ideas which can result some idea becoming mutually exclusive. As per the thread intelligent design is not compatible with evolution as each is presented by their supporters. People make a choice to believe in one or reject both based upon their biases and previously mentioned methods they have learned.

 

[FearGod]

Science can never prove that god doesn’t exist. It’s like proving that unicorns don’t exist. And some people will always find a gap for their deity. Besides, no scientist would waste the time.
Back to the topic, there is no proof of intelligent design. Only of stupid/immoral design, or natural causes.

But when the creator put evidences and signs for his existence then that means a lot to me,
the evidences and the signs are observed in our recent days, thinking of it to be all coincidences
won't help.