Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
If there is evidence for you to rationally believe them there is evidence for me to as well.
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If there is evidence for you to rationally believe them there is evidence for me to as well.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
If you adhere to Sufism then by definition there are certain things you believe.
Correct.
Philosophically, who can be certain of anything? *shrugs*
Gambit
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You both encountered each other during an OBE?
Gambit
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Papoon
Active Member
Yes. I was given some ketamine by a vet. After the main event, I was up for hours in the afterglow, playing electric bass over jazz/funk records. Mainly 'Melodies' by the Jan Hammer Group as I recall...wonderful album. I was slipping in and out of body while playing. 150 mg IV . My friend phoned me the next day from Sydney, 600 kilometres away. He had woken from sleep into a white light out of body state, and could hear me playing bass. He wanted to tell me as soon as possible because it blew his mind. That was in 1983.
Don't try this at home kids. The stuff out there is bogus, and anyway there are some serious dangers unless you have medical supervision/advice.
Do you mean as physically existing animals? Or are you joking?
Gambit
Well-Known Member
Do you consider bigfoot to be a physically existing animal like the grizzly bear?
Papoon
Active Member
I had a funny thought about fire-breathing dragons. Alligators and crocodiles, like goats, eat anything, including metal.
As a youngster, I often made hydrogen balloons by dropping aluminium into a solution of caustic soda. Sometimes for fun I would ignite the balloons. I was a science geek, LOL.
Anyway... what if an alligator or crocodile had eaten metal - maybe armour around a hapless soldier, and was then cornered by soldiers with flaming pikes ? If it belched - which wouldn't be surprising after a meal like that - and the flaming pike was at its snout ....there are powerful acids in the gut of those creatures, which would react with metal, maybe producing ignitable gas.
Just a thought.
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Papoon
Active Member
Your beliefs are fooling your reason. I called myself a Sufi on an amusing whim. Even what may be called my 'spiritual practices', are informed by the scientific method - observation, hypothesis, repeatable experiment, theory'.
You jump to premature false conclusions for emotional reasons.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
No I did it for logical reasons.
Logically the probability of someone who calls themselves a follower of Sufism being a follower of Sufism is high.
Also if you have done this then you can provide evidence for why you believe such things.
Papoon
Active Member
Also your reading comprehension and general savvy is now in question.
The desire to win arguments at any cost is not reason, it is a chronic low level fight/flight syndrome.
Sitting meditation would help you avoid that all too common condition.
Papoon
Active Member
Also, your presumptions about necessary 'belief' correlates with Sufism is incorrect.
Before you make such blunders, check your facts.
I recommend you read 'Learning How to Learn' by Idries Shah - a Sufi famous for his involvement in the scientific community. You will soon realise that your presumptions were emotionally driven, not logical or even vaguely correct.
The paranormal has no boundaries. It does not matter what creed you adhere to. It is universal to all people and even includes animals.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
What cost am I giving that you could judge my willingness to give up a cost?
Also I do meditate frequently.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
Logically I assumed a sufist would be as the definition of the word.
A practitioner of Sufism.
Which is defined as: an inner mystical dimension of Islam.
Also you showed a gap in your logic.
If I was emotional I would already know and there would be no need to prove it to me.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
How so?
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
Then can you please share it?
Brahman speaks with a quiet voice to those who hear and listen. What evidence is there but that he heard or saw that which manifested but others were blind to it.