Ghosts of Japanese Tsunami Victims Trying to Get to Destroyed Homes

[Papoon]

Logically I assumed a sufist would be as the definition of the word.

A practitioner of Sufism.

Which is defined as: an inner mystical dimension of Islam.

Also you showed a gap in your logic.

If I was emotional I would already know and there would be no need to prove it to me.

Like a dog at a bone, LOL.

I'm glad to hear you practice meditation. Even after years of diligent practice you will find the tendency to hold a position remains to a greater or lesser degree.

Fortunately, despite the myth of final enlightenment, the practice does mellow our instinctual folly.

Cheers

 

[Theunis]

How so?

I have experienced it and seen it manifested in people from all walks of life.
Anecdotes are not considered as evidence by scientists or skeptics yet those anecdotes have persisted from time immemorial.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

I have experienced it and seen it manifested in people from all walks of life.
Anecdotes are not considered as evidence by scientists or skeptics yet those anecdotes have persisted from time immemorial.

Because if we where then (for example) all religions would be correct which is a logical impossibility.

 

[Theunis]

Because if we where then (for example) all religions would be correct which is a logical impossibility.

In the reality of "as you believe, so it will be unto you" all religions are correct for it's believers.

Agnostics believe that many things may be possible, but to them/you it is not yet proven so you base your belief system on the material.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

In the reality of "as you believe, so it will be unto you" all religions are correct for it's believers.

Agnostics believe that many things may be possible, but to them/you it is not yet proven so you base your belief system on the material.

Ok so therefore you think that whatever you believe is true is true?

 

[Theunis]

Ok so therefore you think that whatever you believe is true is true?

No words in my mouth, please.
To he who believes so it is true.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

No words in my mouth, please.
To he who believes it is true.

I was merely rephrasing what you had said.

The definition of true is: in accordance with fact or reality.

Therefore your stament cannot be correct as people have beliefs that are not in accordance with fact or reality.

 

[Theunis]

I was merely rephrasing what you had said.

The definition of true is: in accordance with fact or reality.

Therefore your stament cannot be correct as people have beliefs that are not in accordance with fact or reality.

Let us pare it down to modern psychology.
People are taught they are weak and useless, so many end up in institutions.
Walk into their reality and do not ensconce yourself in your own, for to walk in their shoes you will see that to them it is factual.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Let us pare it down to modern psychology.
People are taught they are weak and useless, so many end up in institutions.
Walk into their reality and do not ensconce yourself in your own, for to walk in their shoes you will see that to them it is factual.

No it is not THEIR reality.

It is their perceptions of reality.

Also can you specify what you mean by people? Because not all people are taught to be weak and helpless.

 

[MARCELLO]

I was in Pakistan just right after the massive earthquake destroyed Kashmir region,even the shape of the mountains changed . People over there were telling me miracle stories ,not only survivor miracles but also stories like man hovering above the river,man flying in the air... People simply cannot accept the horrible truth of man made constructional mistakes.

People have all the difficulties to digest the massive disasters that happen to innocent people so that it is pretty much acceptable that there are rumors such as this. You can expect ghosts in the cab,as well as you can expect angels delivering water to the victims under the ruins.

This is life.

 

[Theunis]

No it is not THEIR reality.

Also can you specify what you mean by people? Because not all people are taught to be weak and helpless.

Yes it is their reality not yours. You only see your reality as perceived by you.
That persons reality is not your reality; And no one may foist his reality onto another. You are making an unqualified and presumptious statement by assuming their reality is not Their reality. Have you walked their minds?

Very well Many people - I did not mean all people as such.

Have a look at this link and see what that poster said
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=240702

 

[MARCELLO]

Yes it is their reality not yours. You only see your reality as perceived by you.
That persons reality is not your reality; And no one may foist his reality onto another. You are making an unqualified and presumptious statement by assuming their reality is not Their reality. Have you walked their minds?

Very well Many people - I did not mean all people as such.

Have a look at this link and see what that poster said
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=240702

Relativity of reality,I am wrong?

 

[Theunis]

Relativity of reality,I am wrong?

No you are Correct.
Being what I am I say all realities are my reality because of those overlaps.

 

[Maponos]

This is a really sad thing to hear but not very surprising. I hope they can get some shrine priests to put these spirits to rest.

 

[George-ananda]

Do you consider bigfoot to be a physically existing animal like the grizzly bear?

No, I don't. I think it exists like a grizzly bear. I am not sure exactly what it is but I might speculate some human/ape hybrid (perhaps artificially created by an unknown intelligence) and is not a full-time resident of our normal physical plane. It has the ability to shape shift and become invisible to our senses after being tracked (as reported by Native American tribes). So to repeat this is just a speculation that it exists and is in the realm of what people colloquially call the paranormal. Fascinating stuff!

 

[George-ananda]

Brahman speaks with a quiet voice to those who hear and listen. What evidence is there but that he heard or saw that which manifested but others were blind to it.

I am sorry to not understand your question (i.e. who is the 'he' in the second sentence?). Maybe expand your thoughts.

 

[Gambit]

No, I don't. I think it exists like a grizzly bear. I am not sure exactly what it is but I might speculate some human/ape hybrid (perhaps artificially created by an unknown intelligence) and is not a full-time resident of our normal physical plane. It has the ability to shape shift and become invisible to our senses after being tracked (as reported by Native American tribes). So to repeat this is just a speculation that it exists and is in the realm of what people colloquially call the paranormal. Fascinating stuff!

Okay. So, why can't you apply this same line of thought to unicorns? Or, for that matter, to any number of other mythological creatures (animals, humans, angels/demons, gods and godesses, etc.?

 

[George-ananda]

I was in Pakistan just right after the massive earthquake destroyed Kashmir region,even the shape of the mountains changed . People over there were telling me miracle stories ,not only survivor miracles but also stories like man hovering above the river,man flying in the air... People simply cannot accept the horrible truth of man made constructional mistakes.

People have all the difficulties to digest the massive disasters that happen to innocent people so that it is pretty much acceptable that there are rumors such as this. You can expect ghosts in the cab,as well as you can expect angels delivering water to the victims under the ruins.

This is life.

So, you are saying it is all imagination? I have heard from too many sober-minded people to believe all this ghost and angel stuff is all imagination. There is quantity, quality and consistency of evidence in my opinion that causes me to believe something real is going on.

 

[George-ananda]

Okay. So, why can't you apply this same line of thought to unicorns? Or, to a number other mythological creatures (animals, humans, or otherwise)?

I am an open-minded skeptic and 'unicorns' is not a subject I have studied as much as bigfoots. I agree there may be something real (but not strictly physical) to these things. I just haven't looked into it.

 

[George-ananda]

This is a really sad thing to hear but not very surprising. I hope they can get some shrine priests to put these spirits to rest.

There have been such things with some dramatic events reported (paranormal).