Girls and boys and what are we doing wrong?

[Twilight Hue]

I was reading about some scientific research. They took 10 girls and ten boys and put each group in a separate house without supervision for 5 days. Adults filmed the whole thing, and were there in case an emergency happened, but did not interfere with anything the kids did.

How the girls acted was enormously different from how the boys acted.

The first thing the boys did was trash the house and write all over the walls. Although they had taken a cooking course they did not cook or have meals together. They simply scrounged for easy snacks in the cupboards. They divided themselves into two antagonistic gangs. One boy was singled out for bullying.

The girls cooked, cleaned, and organized a fashion show for entertainment purposes. They did not divide into cliques. When a cat was found, they all wanted to take care of the cat.

So, folks... What the HECK are we doing wrong?


This study can be found on numerous sites: here are two

20 Kids Were Left Alone In A House For A Controversial Experiment. This Is What Happened.

There was a stark difference between how the boys and girls behaved.

www.iflscience.com

Boys And Girls Were Left Alone For 5 Days, The Experiment Revealed Eye-Opening Insights On How Both Groups Are Misjudged

Well, it looks like we know what would happen in a real-life Lord of the Flies scenario...

www.boredpanda.com

Boys.

Lord of the Flies.

Girls

Anne of Green Gables.

;0)

 

[The Hammer]

What we're doing wrong is we're still having boys.

****

 

[The Hammer]

Psychobiologically, such as with handwriting and the ability to communicate effectively, which girls do better at on nearly all metrics from nursery age.

And yet there are outliers too. How do we accommodate those? I was writing simple phrases before I ever entered the classroom.

 

[Secret Chief]

No, you understood me. Male and female brains are different and we learned this in my Teaching Assistant training. Boys develop slower than girls and need more help. I don't see an issue here, it's just the way we grow.

You could give me top tips - I've been a TA for just one year!
Aside.... the school is a mixed comprehensive. The (female) head of maths told me she'd be happy to be in an all boys school but not an all girls. She said the boys were more likely to be silly but if she had a go at them they'd be fine with her in the next lesson. Girls by comparison are likely to be sullen with her indefinitely.

 

[Rival]

And yet there are outliers too. How do we accommodate those? I was writing simple phrases before I ever entered the classroom.

Outliers exist but don't make the rule. Over here they would be put in different sets or given harder work to do.

 

[Rival]

You could give me top tips - I've been a TA for just one year!
Aside.... the school is a mixed comprehensive. The (female) head of maths told me she'd be happy to be in an all boys school but not an all girls. She said the boys were more likely to be silly but if she had a go at them they'd be fine with her in the next lesson. Girls by comparison are are likely to be sullen with her indefinitely.

I've found the same. Boys tend to be much more forgiving, while girls hold terrible grudges.

 

[The Hammer]

Outliers exist but don't make the rule. Over here they would be put in different sets or given harder work to do.

And therefore singled out and bullied as boys do, no?

And is that really fair to the other kids either? Constantly feeling lesser than the one or 3 smart kids?

 

[Rival]

And therefore singled out and bullied as boys do, no?

And is that really fair to the other kids either? Constantly feeling lesser than the one or 3 smart kids?

Not really, because over here we have sets for the main subjects, English, Science and Maths. They go from 1-6 (or so) with 1 being for those who excel at, say, Maths, and 6 for those who need the most help. I've not found any bullying inherent in this system as it's just taken for granted. The other kids don't feel lesser, from what I've found. They just get on with it. I was in the lowest set for maths with many other kids and no one gave a ****.

 

[Secret Chief]

Outliers exist but don't make the rule. Over here they would be put in different sets or given harder work to do.

Are you still working as a TA?

 

[Rival]

Are you still working as a TA?

Not right now as I'm at university. I plan to go back afterwards, if I can.

 

[The Hammer]

Not really, because over here we have sets for the main subjects, English, Science and Maths. They go from 1-6 (or so) with 1 being for those who excel at, say, Maths, and 6 for those who need the most help. I've not found any bullying inherent in this system as it's just taken for granted. The other kids don't feel lesser, from what I've found. They just get on with it. I was in the lowest set for maths with many other kids and no one gave a ****.

Nice insight into how another system works.

 

[Secret Chief]

Not right now as I'm at university. I plan to go back afterwards, if I can.

What you taking?

 

[Rival]

What you taking?

Theology.

 

[Debater Slayer]

What you taking?

A couple of pills for blood pressure, one for cholesterol, and one for calming down after browsing RF.

Wait... you were asking @Rival. Never mind.

 

[Secret Chief]

Theology.

- Theology - Wikipedia
...suggests a rather fundamental disagreement as to what is the scope of the subject. What does your course cover? Just Christianity? Just the Abrahamics? Just the theisms? All religions?

 

[Secret Chief]

A couple of pills for blood pressure, one for cholesterol, and one for calming down after browsing RF.

Wait... you were asking @Rival. Never mind.

I like to hear from everyone and anyone.

 

[Rival]

- Theology - Wikipedia
...suggests a rather fundamental disagreement as to what is the scope of the subject. What does your course cover? Just Christianity? Just the Abrahamics? Just the theisms? All religions?

It's Christian theology but we did cover world religions. It's an Anglican based university. It's not Christian though, it's not a course on how to be a preacher (a lot of people seem to assume this...). It's just teaching you Christian theology, historical Jesus, ethics etc. from a secular pov with a Christian focus.

 

[JustGeorge]

What we're doing wrong is we're still having boys.

Around here, I decided if I couldn't beat them, I'd join them.

I write on the walls and tear the place up, too.

My husband left me unsupervised with some old spray paint cans. I made the garage pretty.

Ares is coloring on my car with markers as we speak. Its probably one of the calmest and most productive things he's done all week. He's doing a fine job.

You could give me top tips - I've been a TA for just one year!
Aside.... the school is a mixed comprehensive. The (female) head of maths told me she'd be happy to be in an all boys school but not an all girls. She said the boys were more likely to be silly but if she had a go at them they'd be fine with her in the next lesson. Girls by comparison are likely to be sullen with her indefinitely.

I've found the same. Boys tend to be much more forgiving, while girls hold terrible grudges.

I worked on a shift with all men, and one of all women.

If there was a spat on the men's shift, it was quick, explosive, and done. On the women's shift, it tended to get sighs, groans, held in, and then released at an inappropriate time and raw for awhile.

For whatever reason, all the guys started snubbing each other for a week or two. One day, while everyone was in the main room, one of the guys said "I remember when we all used to be friends." Everyone nodded, and agreed, "yeah, lets stop this stupid ****." And it was done! Everyone was best of pals again.

 

[Quintessence]

And yet there are outliers too. How do we accommodate those? I was writing simple phrases before I ever entered the classroom.

I was writing simple phrases "backwards" according to adults. I thought they were being stupid, because obviously you should write everything from right to left (I was, and still am, left-handed). If you aren't writing it like a reflection in a mirror, you're doing it WRONG, blast it.

 

[Rival]

I was writing simple phrases "backwards" according to adults. I thought they were being stupid, because obviously you should write everything from right to left (I was, and still am, left-handed). If you aren't writing it like a reflection in a mirror, you're doing it WRONG, blast it.

I used to deliberately misspell words because I knew English isn't phonetic so if a spelling matched the pronunciation I concluded I had the spelling wrong.