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God’s Method of delivering messages, is it flawed?

CG Didymus

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
Trailblazer said:
I do not know w[exactly how it would work, but I am sure other Baha'is know more than I do.
I am always too busy answering posts to have time to read.

Oh thank God, someone else has already done the work for me. :)
Google is my friend.

Understanding the Baha’i Peace Plan

The Baha'i Peace Plan
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The peace plan came out in the late 80's. I've even read it. I even went to a Baha'i peace conference in San Francisco back then. Where were you?
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
CG Didymus said:
Or, am I wrong and everything's going to be fine? How do you think it's going to work?
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I really have no idea how it will work, but I know it will work, because it was ordained by God.

I do not live in the past or the future, I live in the present. That has changed my life.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
CG Didymus said:
Yes, who is he in Baha'i beliefs. He is not the first man. He wasn't in the garden walking with God and eating forbidden fruit. So what is his "true" story? The story that justifies Baha'is saying he is a manifestation of God?
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Baha'u'llah and Abdu'l-Baha justify it, for me anyway.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
CG Didymus said:
So The Bab ushered in peace? And since that time how many wars have happened?
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Ushered in does not mean established.

v. ush·ered, ush·er·ing, ush·ers
v. tr.
1. To serve as an usher to; escort.
2. To lead or conduct: The host ushered us into the living room. See Synonyms at guide.
3. To precede and introduce; inaugurate: a celebration to usher in the new century.

usher

However, there could have been peace long ago, had the kings and rulers heeded the call of Baha'u'llah.

https://bahaiteachings.org/lesser-peace-great-peace/
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Ancient Soul said:
Nor did God "inspire" anyone to write anything, nor send any self-aggrandizing "messengers" to write anything about himself.
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All you have is a personal opinion and if you are asserting that it is true that is a logical fallacy, an argument from ignorance.

Argument from ignorance asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false or proposition is false because it has not yet been proven true. This represents a type of false dichotomy in that it excludes a third option, which is that there may have been an insufficient investigation, and therefore there is insufficient information to prove the proposition be either true or false. Nor does it allow the admission that the choices may in fact not be two (true or false), but may be as many as four,
  1. true
  2. false
  3. unknown between true or false
  4. being unknowable (among the first three).[1]
Argument from ignorance - Wikipedia
 
Ancient Soul

Ancient Soul

The Spiritual Universe
Trailblazer said:
You will never win this game because I am holding all the high cards. :D
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Trailblazer said:
All you have is a personal opinion and if you are asserting that it is true that is a logical fallacy, an argument from ignorance.

Argument from ignorance asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false or proposition is false because it has not yet been proven true. This represents a type of false dichotomy in that it excludes a third option, which is that there may have been an insufficient investigation, and therefore there is insufficient information to prove the proposition be either true or false. Nor does it allow the admission that the choices may in fact not be two (true or false), but may be as many as four,
  1. true
  2. false
  3. unknown between true or false
  4. being unknowable (among the first three).[1]
Argument from ignorance - Wikipedia
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And your bottom-most post perfectly fits your top-most claim and that of your entire Baha'i mythology.

Do you always go around insulting yourself and your beliefs?
 
R

rational experiences

Veteran Member
The argument, is factually male humans versus males as humans, scientist inventor theist of the past.

Once living owning a higher life form and self consciousness, as a recorded AI memory that a large human population prove that they are aware of. The speaking recorded shared communicating voice, and over voiced artificial and subliminal brain effect, given back to the Designer of science.

Machines, controlled by their Designer the fake God theist. Who is not God but detailed scientific information for a false God, an idea, a belief and a want.

Science.

Science to the science memory says, in the past I was like a God, what I knew, how intelligent and higher in wisdom and life/living spirit I was. The fake self God belief, is male and also human.

O one planet stone, does not speak.
Atmospheric gas mass in the past not speaking.

The spoken voice, males as humans designer of machines that record and transmit both sound/voice and images. Their design.

Attacked life.

Their claim I will send you to the eternal and claim it infinite. Infinity he says the place in a heated space where my own DESIGNED reaction began...when I personally became the creator like God did in the past....reactions he quotes.

Now he also quotes, infinite you cannot number factor it. But he also quotes the greatness of space is immense. Yet when he does scientific radiation heated spatial mass removal he personally makes new Numbers, adds onto the condition space and spatial expansion....space gets bigger.

His ideas, and now I am the Creator designer of the infinite eternal theme....all in his irradiated brain state. He believes he invented the infinite/eternal space...as he knowingly increased the state of space existing into further space.

Where his ideas that are false come from. Why he was always proven to be lying in his human living presence, quoted by self explanation male and the scientists to be the Destroyer egotist mentality. Expressed exactly how it was described...for he does in fact think his own self special, a Designer and Creator, when he is only destroying....yet his mentality makes some other quotes about how he personally is increasing by his egotism the condition of the presence of the infinite.

It was always known about him, in a male human spiritual community...to be psychic informed spiritually as a self warning to self on behalf of human life continuance. How it was always taught and related, we own our own wisdom and self human aware advice for survival.
 
R

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Ancient Soul said:
And your bottom-most post perfectly fits your top-most claim and that of your entire Baha'i mythology.

Do you always go around insulting yourself and your beliefs?
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When a human owns an experience, then the human is living, is experiencing then tries to document information in the expressive reasoning of gaining advice.

Now I am living as a newly born baby, just the same as all of you are. You get told ancient stories. Then next moment your own self is in an experience, which you relate is likened to past shared human advice/information. And you document it.

How is that being wrong, as a human?

If the scientist self, the liars in human life with fake/artificial machines claiming self is the inventor Creator of God by spatial expansion themes. Which a science self with machine activates the point of their designer conversion is that very moment. Radiating space, to own the gain of a power of God he says. Taken from the mass of the planet.

And today he wants to argue about what a human felt, expressed and realised as a NON scientist, without scientific design wisdom, but is changed/attacked and then is teaching everyone? For it was real.

If science ignored their own information that they caused/activated the Earth into a huge reactive release of its owned power/combustion underground and sink hole gain.....for they do ignore relevant advice and it was proven. What would be further proof that science never owned God? You know brothers O the Earth mass and what it naturally does itself, that you never wanted. Life destruction?

So if you were not owner of any form of scientific machine or reaction and then get similarly attacked and advised in a natural Earth release O God the one planet and then write about it. It then becomes historic male human proof that science is a liar and they never owned what the natural planet did. As the evidence.

Why it was preached in a spiritual group and maintained as evidence and advice against science. For science was the only human liar. When a human mind/chemical brain is attacked, then what it expresses is a personal human experience advice. Awareness.

The history quotes before Jesus the event that wandering asteroid stone was being released from owning its highest God presence, stone, and the gases filled back in the mantle between a radiating sun and Planet Earth. As its protective cloak or cloth. As scientific advice that is male science advice.

Which proves that Earth kept releasing its own ground radiation and fusion mass into radiation blasts. A condition no scientist controls.
 
TransmutingSoul

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
CG Didymus said:
Yes, some good rules, some not so good rules... like stoning people to death for breaking the Sabbath and offering cut up, burnt up animals to God. So did the people necessarily need God to tell them the good rules? Maybe, but some wise people could have come up with them. But the not so good rules? That don't sound like an all loving God came up with those. It sounds more like people. People wanting to control and force the masses to follow all the rules. If not, then they're gonna die. And it still didn't work. Flaw.
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It is way to easy to judge the past by current standards.

Regards Tony
 
TransmutingSoul

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
CG Didymus said:
Yes, who is he in Baha'i beliefs. He is not the first man. He wasn't in the garden walking with God and eating forbidden fruit. So what is his "true" story? The story that justifies Baha'is saying he is a manifestation of God?
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Adam was a Manifestation of God.

The full message given by Adam, has not survived the passage to time.

Regards Tony
 
gnostic

gnostic

The Lost One
Amanaki said:
God do not deliver flawed messaged :) its the hearing of the human that is flawed
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If the Qur’an tell us that Solomon can hear, speak and understand the language of ants, birds and other animals, then I would say -

(A) the author has either wild imagination and making things up (eg fable, myth, allegory),
(B) the author is off-his-rocker,
(C) the story is flawed,
or (D) all of the above.​

To me, I think Muhammad has a very big ego, and competing against Judaism and Christianity, he had to exaggerate and embellish the original story about Solomon’s amazing abilities even more.

In the older Hebrew story, he was merely wise king, who ruled his kingdom and subjects, justly, built the first temple and palace in Jerusalem, and gain empire and great wealth through diplomacy, alliance and marriage.

But in the Quran, he has become sorcerer, who can speak the languages of animals, control weather with his powers, and command animals and jinns to fight his wars.

Between 1Kings and the Quran, the version of king Solomon in the Quran is the one that got corrupted with fable magic, and became more unrealistic.

The message is quite clear, Muhammad cannot give clear story without distorting it, to benefit himself.
 
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