God’s Method of delivering messages, is it flawed?

[PAUL MARKHAM]

Because humans was given a free will to do right or wrong action, speech and thoughts,
Being morally good os always the correct path, but you are free to chose the path of attachments, like, dislike, greed, anger jealousy, lust and so on. A religioues person is trying to let go, or remove them self from those attachments. And be free of any attachments that lead away from the teaching

So god gave us free will to only punish us for getting it wrong.
This god made loads of desires within us to punish us for reacting to them.
So it's all his fault.

 

[Spirit of Light]

So god gave us free will to only punish us for getting it wrong.
This god made loads of desires within us to punish us for reacting to them.
So it's all his fault.

How can it be Gods fault when we are given the teaching to the right way, but so many listen to their lust, ego, needs instead of listen to God.
That is a human fault, not Gods fault

 

[TransmutingSoul]

No one is saying it's not a wonderful dream. And that's all it is.

I see many are working towards the dream, as such, to me, and them, it is already a reality.

Regards Tony

 

[PAUL MARKHAM]

I consider that a sorry way to live, for our own selfish desires, but whatever floats your boat..

And you wonder why the Baha'i dream of a new race of men seems unrealistic to you.

“With the establishment of the Most Great Peace and the spiritualization of the peoples of the world, man will become a noble being adorned with divine virtues and perfections. This is one of the fruits of the Revelation of Bahá’u’lláh, promised by Him. The nobility of man and his spiritual development will lead him in the future to such a position that no individual could enjoy eating his food or resting at home while knowing that there was one person somewhere in the world without food or shelter. It is Bahá’u’lláh’s mission to create such a new race of men.”
(Adib Taherzadeh, The Revelation of Bahá’u’lláh v 3, p. 126)

New Race of Men

You're driven by your desires like posting here telling us we have it wrong. Bahaullah was driven to writing 1400 tablets. Few of us only do things we don't like.

 

[PAUL MARKHAM]

I see many are working towards the dream, as such, to me, and them, it is already a reality.

Regards Tony

It only takes a few to do evil to upset your dreams.

 

[Trailblazer]

I asked why for a reason. So far you're saying desire is bad. Not giving reasons for things we are meant to enjoy are bad.

Why the rules on menstruation?

I did not say you could not enjoy them but there is an inverse correlation between personal enjoyment and personal sacrifice in service to God. You find out what you get for sacrificing only after you do it. That is what happened to me and then I wondered how I could have ever chosen to live the way I was living before.

What rules?

 

[TransmutingSoul]

So why were we made this way?

To bring forth an ever advincing civilization in service to each other, finding purpose given by God.

The correct use of the sex impulse helps build strong communities. The bond of marriage and family in turn spreads to community, nation and as one human family.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

It only takes a few to do evil to upset your dreams.

I do not see those actions alter my dreams, in fact there will always be people that choose an alternative path and that is why the majority make laws to protect society as a whole.

In this age Baha'u'llah has also said that the minority must be protected when considering any law we make.

Regards Tony

 

[Trailblazer]

You're driven by your desires like posting here telling us we have it wrong. Bahaullah was driven to writing 1400 tablets. Few of us only do things we don't like.

That is comical. How do you know what I like? It sounds like you are projecting.

I only answer these posts out of a sense of duty, not out of desire. If I had no conscience I would be off doing something I consider fun. I had a burger and fries last night and that was a big event, because I never even have time to go out for fast food, and the only reason I went out is because we had no electricity to cook anything and I had not eaten all day.

 

[PAUL MARKHAM]

So blame God because you cannot control your carnal desires.

You should blame god for giving you desires you have to resist.

I think the desire is to ensure we reproduce.

 

[Trailblazer]

Bahaullah was driven to writing 1400 tablets

For the sake of God and humanity, NOT for Himself.

 

[PAUL MARKHAM]

Those things you mention here are seen as lack of morality, lack of self control, a sin (some of them, not all of them is sin)
But guidelines to a good morally life say that the more self control, the fewer attachments to sex, masturbation, and so on, the better life we will live, and closercto the standard of God we become.

Non of the typical human activitues are important or needed for a good religious person

So god made us this way so we resisted the desire.

 

[PAUL MARKHAM]

I don't know if you can, only you know that.

That is comical.
My power went down yesterday and I was never so happy, because for one day I did not have to think about service to God because I had no computer.... Desires? Lol.

I can and do.

So the temptation to post is too strong!!

 

[Trailblazer]

You should blame god for giving you desires you have to resist.

I do not have to blame God since I can easily resist those desires, but I would not blame God if I couldn't.
I was not always this way, but I was married so I was breaking no Baha'i laws, I was only wasting my life.

I think the desire is to ensure we reproduce.

And then after that is accomplished do people stop having sex?

 

[PAUL MARKHAM]

That question has been answered many times.

All the advice on this subject comes from the Kitab-i-Iqan, where Baha'u'llah proves to us the Messengers from God and shows what they offer the world.

Spoiler

The Kitáb-i-Íqán | Bahá’í Reference Library

Regards Tony

Theists don't accept atheist answers but we have to accept theirs. Got it!!!

 

[Spirit of Light]

So god made us this way so we resisted the desire.

Yes, because as long we are human beings we have a form of ego, or the want ot need, but in heaven those things can not exist, so one way we can repay past sins is true suffering when we struggle to let go of our ego.
And when we do end fully one attachment, we realize a new attachment we must also let go of.
So the religious practices is to fine tune our self to the life after death, in paradise

 

[Trailblazer]

So the temptation to post is too strong!!

You are absolutely wrong about that.... What i do is out of a sense of duty.
The way I know that is when I do not receive any posts or when the power goes out and I have no computer I am gleeful....

 

[PAUL MARKHAM]

When science finds true unity, then I see science may have the frame of reference it needs to consider it has the proof all along, but has not been focused to find it.

Science also has to except it does not have the capacity of all knowledge, there are things we cannot know.

Regards Tony

Science doesn't have all the answers. Unlike theists who believe they do.

Science is about discovery,religion is about blind acceptance.

 

[PAUL MARKHAM]

You are absolutely wrong about that.... What i do is out of a sense of duty.
The way I know that is when I do not receive any posts or when the power goes out and I have no computer I am gleeful....

Your sense of duty is a desire.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Theists don't accept atheist answers but we have to accept theirs. Got it!!!

An atheist approaches this subject from purely from their own thoughts as science has not, and I offer cannot disprove God.

A person of Faith approaches the subject from what they see as God given answers and death is for faith is not to consider what God has offerd.

To me it is logical that our intelligence is a reflection of a greater intelligent capacity.

Regards Tony