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God is disproven by science? Really?
- Thread starter MrIntelligentDesign
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You seem to have fallen into the "post lag" trap.
Indeed I did.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
The Flying Spaghetti monster is first cause. All gods radiate from His Noodly Appendages.
Ramen!
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
You are just repeating what he already said.
Indeed, life has to exist for it to evolve.
Life exists, right? So it seems like a safe assumption.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
No.
How many times must we correct this mistake before it will sink in?
It is not.
And to evolution, it matters not how it happened.
What matters is that it did. Be it natural chemistry, gods, aliens, unicorn space farts,.... Life originated, since it exists.
That's all evolution requires: that life exists. It matters not how.
Get it into that dense skull of yours.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
It doesn't matter to evolution.
Correct, we can't have evolution without life existing *somehow*.
HOW specifically is irrelevant.
Does life exist? Answer: yes.
That's all evolution needs.
How life exists? Irrelevant.
Regardless how life originated (natural chemistry; gods, aliens, spacefarts,....), it started evolving once it existed.
Projecting much?
Here's the idiocy of your argument.....
Suppose we are tracking what path a car took to drive from east coast to west coast in the US.
Your silly logic applied to that would be that we couldn't possibly figure that out unless we know exactly in which factory and by whom that car was made because the "car needs to exist before it can drive".
I hope you can see how utterly stupid that is.
Colt
Well-Known Member
Relativity of Concept Frames
"Partial, incomplete, and evolving intellects would be helpless in the master universe, would be unable to form the first rational thought pattern, were it not for the innate ability of all mind, high or low, to form a universe frame in which to think. If mind cannot fathom conclusions, if it cannot penetrate to true origins, then will such mind unfailingly postulate conclusions and invent origins that it may have a means of logical thought within the frame of these mind-created postulates. And while such universe frames for creature thought are indispensable to rational intellectual operations, they are, without exception, erroneous to a greater or lesser degree.Conceptual frames of the universe are only relatively true; they are serviceable scaffolding which must eventually give way before the expansions of enlarging cosmic comprehension. The understandings of truth, beauty, and goodness, morality, ethics, duty, love, divinity, origin, existence, purpose, destiny, time, space, even Deity, are only relatively true. God is much, much more than a Father, but the Father is man’s highest concept of God; nonetheless, the Father-Son portrayal of Creator-creature relationship will be augmented by those supermortal conceptions of Deity which will be attained in Orvonton, in Havona, and on Paradise. Man must think in a mortal universe frame, but that does not mean that he cannot envision other and higher frames within which thought can take place." UB 1955 IMOP
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Scientists will tell you that we do not need to know how life originated to find out what happened to it once it existed.
Oh well
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
You do realise you quoted yourself? Are you talking to me or yourself? If it's me, I have no idea what you're on about.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
thats ok
Oh ok I should have kept scrolling. I'm guessing it's a personal attack directed at me and Dan. Not sure that being mates with Dan is going to insult me, he is way more intelligent than me and makes me laugh. So I'm not sure how you want me to react.... throw a tantrum? report you? Threaten you with missing out on the all new Jesus coded earth 2.0 if you don't agree with me?
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
please have a nice day evening -- if you want to report me go ahead.
That was your cunning plan?
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I honestly don't know what you're talking about --
Welcome to my world
Sorry, I'm not seeing your point.
Evolution addresses change within existing species. Abiogenesis addresses the origin of life. Apples and oranges.
Origins?
Science, experience and commonsense says chemistry. Religious mythology says magic.