God is only belief not real?

[Snowbear]

In the end it just comes down to what you believe and what you want to believe and how you see the world. I feel ill watching people be "converted". I think people should stop trying to convert people...

Frubals to you... As a Christian, I agree with you. We are commissioned to spread the word, not to "convert" people. AFAIK, all we lowly humans can do is spread the Word, tell the Story, point others to where to find the Word. It's then up to God to do works in their heart to call them to pursue His Answers (Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few chosen.) It's then up to the person to answer the call or to reject the call. Most will reject the call....

God is only belief and not real?

I am one who believes that God is Real

 

[Malus 12:9]

See sometimes at 4am on the tv they have those "stage preachers" or whatever they are called.Ya know the ones that have flashing lights and make people walk again or see again by "touch". Can someone enlighten to me as if they are real, they look all set up to me.

 

[Quiddity]

For me it's faith/belief builds upon reason. That's it.

~Victor

 

[michel]

I gave up downloading full porn movies without God.

I gave up playing gamble machines without God.

I gave up going to brothel without God.

:jam:

But you did play gabling machines without God's help
You did download Porn movies without God's help
You did go to a brothel without God's help............

God is not going to wet-nurse us through every turn in life saying "Malus! Don't go downloading Porn movies.........."

The choice of the three ' forms of entertainment' are yours to make - either you will do them, or not - it is you who makes the decision - not God.

What would be the point in life if God sorted out our problems for us ? - As a Christian, I believe that life is to be lived to see how 'well' or 'badly' I do in life. As it happens, I would prefer to do good in most cases, even if there was no God; which, I guess makes me lucky. But I still sin, every day, as do all of us.

 

[Skavau]

Everything is down to experience and belief in one's own personal interpretation of reality. I believe that the world will not collapse on itself. Why? Experience.

 

[Malus 12:9]

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What would be the point in life if God sorted out our problems for us ?.

To me that seems what Chrsitianity is about MICH. I was just stating that I didn't need
God "to guide me on giving up" certain ****e, and that things can be done without God.

 

[Snowbear]

What would be the point in life if God sorted out our problems for us ?

To me that seems what Chrsitianity is about MICH.

If that's what you think Christianity is about, I think you've missed the point.
I believe God can (and often does) sort out some of our problems for us, and I thank Him when He does help me out. But what it's really about is His sacrifice, which gives me forgiveness and salvation.

 

[Steve]

If that's what you think Christianity is about, I think you've missed the point.
I believe God can (and often does) sort out some of our problems for us, and I thank Him when He does help me out. But what it's really about is His sacrifice, which gives me forgiveness and salvation.

well said

 

[Malus 12:9]

LOL, fancy a christian saying what another christian said was "well put". Doesn't happen a lot does it?

I believe God can (and often does) sort out some of our problems for us, and I thank Him when He does help me out.

Well, I believe I sorted some of my problems out. I do not pray or worship or church or
anything of Christiantiy.

I believe God can

There's that word again, which was my topic at hand. Worry less about your Christian lynch mob . This is for all people not just Christians.

 

[Aurelian]

look if you believe in Jesus you have to accept the fact that 200 years earlier the same stories, rituals, and beliefs were formed during the lifetime of Mithras in Persia, which formed Mithraism....It's the same thing, Jesus is just a later version of Mithras. Actually it's proven fact that these stories of the NT did not come from the time period of Jesus, they are in fact a few hundred years earlier with a different savior who shed the blood of sins for all. And the whole event of a Persian messiah was prophesized 1000's of years earlier in the Zoroastrian book of creation. Even the Catholic fathers affirm the similarities

Now for the topic at hand. I don't see how God can always be based on belief, because most gods did not reveal holy books, or consider such revelation important. They were "experienced" in the present by the masses through oracles and miracles. So any myths describing the gods can be taken as symbolic stories of the actual living gods, the gods being real but not necessarily the "story." They were just written about the best way humans could understand them.

 

[Snowbear]

I do not pray or worship or church or
anything of Christiantiy.

I know.... Like I said ~ you missed the point.

I believe because He is real

 

[Malus 12:9]

They were just written about the best way humans could understand them.

Either I AM stupid after all or not human.

I know.... Like I said ~ you missed the point.

And what point was stated?

I believe because He is real

To you, yes. Your name shouldn't be stewpidloser it should be stewpidproselytizer.

Bloody hell.

 

[Radar]

I know.... Like I said ~ you missed the point.

I believe because He is real

And he is real because you believe. So it goes back to the begining where this is all based on belief. So I don't believe then he is not real and he's not real because I don't believe. But I would not make that statement. I would say I don't believe because there is no proof. And then someone would say thati it says so in the bible, torah, quran or whatever. And I would say I don't believe what those books say because those books are not based on anything concrete and those books have no physical evidence to back them up. Agnostics, Realist, and Atheist look factual and physical evidence for proof we do not simply believe or have faith in something because some old book says so.

 

[michel]

If that's what you think Christianity is about, I think you've missed the point.
I believe God can (and often does) sort out some of our problems for us, and I thank Him when He does help me out. But what it's really about is His sacrifice, which gives me forgiveness and salvation.

You make a good point actually; I must admit I am reluctant to ask God for 'things' for me - apart from the sort of things I believe I have 'the right' to ask for - as in better concentration during prayers, relief for those in distress, wisdom for me, to help others.........

I just don't feel that I have the 'right' to 'bother' God about things that I ought to be able to sort out for myself.......

 

[Malus 12:9]

LOL, my first part of post #29 kicked in again.

 

[Kowalski]

I know.... Like I said ~ you missed the point.

I believe because He is real

Whose real Man ?

K

 

[gtrsgrls]

Believing in God is partly faith and partly because of God's evidence.How do we know that George Washington ever lived?Partly because we just have faith that he existed and we also see the evidence that he lived.I see evidence that God exists because of our complex world.Though this isn't going to be enough proof for everybody,it is enough for me.

 

[mr.guy]

How do we know that George Washington ever lived?Partly because we just have faith that he existed and we also see the evidence that he lived.I see evidence that God exists because of our complex world.Though this isn't going to be enough proof for everybody,it is enough for me.

How do we know that George Washington isn't God?

 

[michel]

How do we know that George Washington isn't God?

Well, He wouldn't be Dead if he was, now would he ?:biglaugh:

 

[mr.guy]

Well, He wouldn't be Dead if he was, now would he ?:biglaugh:

I could say the same for God.