God isn't real. Prove me wrong.

[Sir Doom]

The concept 'God' is obviously a real thing otherwise you wouldn't have put it in your thread title. As it is, every concept 'God' is of equal value in terms of existence, and in fact occupies the same 'space' as similar concepts such as 'democracy', 'solipsism', 'esprit de corps', 'Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles' or 'scrumptious'. Therefore, by invoking the word at all (as you have done) it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you yourself (deny as you might) hold a concept 'God' that you think is 'unreal'. Unfortunately, the only requirements for basic existence is: impact upon reality. If a thing affects reality, it is real. If it doesn't... well we never get that far, do we? Things that don't exist are non-perceptible. Everything else exists (at least as a concept), including 'God'. Evidenced by the fact that you, the OP, are in fact using the concept to affect reality in a way consistent with other similar concepts. I need no further proof of the existence of a concept such as God.

 

[syo]

Not a troll. A debate. As the title says.

So! Prove me wrong. I'll reply.

from something comes all. we are mortals, so from something immortal, we come from.

 

[Katzpur]

You're good. Not agreeing with someone often, but still upholding the sportmanship. Good boi points to you. Or girl.

Thank you. (It's girl -- old lady, actually.)

 

[Thinking Homer]

Didn't we have something like this last week?

 

[leroy]

Why does this unknown 'cause' have to be supernatural? Just because we don't yet know what it is doesn't mean it has to be supernatural. That's no different than our ignorant ancestors concluding that the cause of earthquakes had to be some supernatural force, simply because they had no concept of plate tectonics.

The cause of the natural world (universe) by definition has to be supernatural. This is necessarily true.

 

[Quintessence]

Didn't we have something like this last week?

Threads like this happen often, with varying agendas. It's part of why I ask clarifying questions.

I get tired of the question, though. "Proving" the gods is entirely missing the point, IMO. I don't waste my time trying to "prove" the gods when I'm busy getting to know them and developing relationships with them.

 

[stvdv]

God isn't real. Prove me wrong.

Not a troll. A debate. As the title says.
So! Prove me wrong. I'll reply.

1: You call yourself "TheAll-Knowing"
2: You just came to RF forum today
3: You come up with title "God isn't real. Prove me wrong"
4: You start saying I am not a troll

The first feeling I get from all this: Probably you wanted to call yourself "TheAll-Knowing God", but thought that this was a bit over the top.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Not a troll. A debate. As the title says.

So! Prove me wrong. I'll reply.

You say ( God isn't real ) that means, that you have proof, that God isn't real.
So what proof do you have ?

 

[Faithofchristian]

Wrong. Of course people can debate about something without the other party having any proof whatsoever. They're called 'fools'.

For example: I took LSD. LSD made me see into the fourth dimension and communicate with aliens. This is true because I experienced it. Aliens are real and third dimensional beings can travel into the fourth dimension by taking chemicals. And I refuse to believe otherwise, even if you have proof.

Nope not at all, that just means, your having a bad trip hallucination, so my advice is to come back down to earth.

 

[QuestioningMind]

The cause of the natural world (universe) by definition has to be supernatural. This is necessarily true.

No it does not. Why would you make such a silly claim? The cause of the natural world could be completely NATURAL and there's absolutely no evidence that the cause of natural universe is anything other than NATURAL.

 

[Thinking Homer]

Threads like this happen often, with varying agendas. It's part of why I ask clarifying questions.

I get tired of the question, though. "Proving" the gods is entirely missing the point, IMO. I don't waste my time trying to "prove" the gods when I'm busy getting to know them and developing relationships with them.

Oh I see. Makes sense

 

[sojourner]

Not a troll. A debate. As the title says.

So! Prove me wrong. I'll reply.

God is reality. Prove me wrong.

 

[Jumi]

For example: I took LSD. LSD made me see into the fourth dimension and communicate with aliens. This is true because I experienced it. Aliens are real and third dimensional beings can travel into the fourth dimension by taking chemicals. And I refuse to believe otherwise, even if you have proof.

Ok. So you took LSD and thought aliens were real and now apparently you don't. Is it the result of you taking LSD?

 

[Twilight Hue]

This will only result in a circular argument. Those with faith in a god entity need no evidence, nor can they explain the existence of god without it in my opinion. So the end result is a stalemate.
Things that don't exist can't be proven to not exist.

I don't see this as a stalemate, but rather atheists are clearly far ahead of the pack. The evidence speaks for itself.

I have it pegged that if God isn't there, God just isn't there no matter how much people wish and pretend to the contrary.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Didn't we have something like this last week?

Wait till the sequel! *Grin*

 

[Jim]

... so I suppose there's never going to be conclusion.

But it's a nice debate nonetheless. ...

Not interested.

 

[sayak83]

I genuinely expected this exact post.

Alright.

What you did just now was a claim. I can't prove you wrong because there's... nothing to 'prove'. Nothing to build on. You just said, "fam. god's real."

That's just arguing for the sake of arguing.

That's the exact same problem with your OP.

 

[Cacotopia]

So you are saying my sin is carried on through DNA? So my greatest faults are related by a past life? How can this be proven?

i did not say that this was true I gave examples of some beliefs that I find to be complete nonsense yet are somehow still believed in.

 

[Frog]

I don't actually understand what you mean, but I feel confidend that the universe does not need my support in order to exist.

A self proclaimed God would need to believe in a Universe or at least adhere to it incognizant of his mental concepts. This is physics both known and unknown. But HAHA aggain! which type of God are we ascribing here? We need to classify the god term into separate classifications and definitions if we are to have a mint hope of collective conclusion unanimously

 

[leroy]

No it does not. Why would you make such a silly claim? The cause of the natural world could be completely NATURAL and there's absolutely no evidence that the cause of natural universe is anything other than NATURAL.

If nature had a cause, the cause had to be something supernatural. This is necessarily true. The cause of nature (the natural world) had to be something that excists independently of nature

If the cause of the natural world was something natural then it couldn't be the cause of the natural world.

Just like the cause of the first computer by definition could have not been a computer otherwise it wouldn't be the first computer. The cause of the first natural "thing" could have not been something natural.