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God rejects homosexuals...this is a fact

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Tristesse

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Christian Pilgrim said:
That's a good point and deserves a separate thread. The slavery in the OT and NT including slavery in Rome is completely different than the evil slavery in the history of America. For instance, the OT required masters to release their slaves after so many years of service. Much of the biblical slavery was voluntary due to personal debt. In Rome, people would voluntary to be slaves to better their lives or an estate owner without children would make a faithful slave owner the inheritance of the entire estate. The Bible commands Christian masters (slave owners) to treat their Christian slaves as equals or one in Christ. Here is the central theme in the NT in regards to slaves and masters. The cross is the great leveler in humanity, where all are one in Christ. This includes homosexuals too according to this verse.

Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise. - Galatians
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Yes, The bible tells you how to treat your slaves, how to mark them as your own by driving a spike through their ear, and not to beat your slaves too severely so that their not able to continue working for you. I'm sure you can pick and choose better parts of slavery in the bible, thats almost an oxymoron. But I don't care how you do it, slave owning is and always was bad.
 
Christian Pilgrim

Christian Pilgrim

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Tristesse said:
Yes, The bible tells you how to treat your slaves, how to mark them as your own by driving a spike through their ear, and not to beat your slaves too severely so that their not able to continue working for you. I'm sure you can pick and choose better parts of slavery in the bible, thats almost an oxymoron. But I don't care how you do it, slave owning is and always was bad.
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I am not expert of slavery or homosexuality in the Bible. Let's discuss slavery on another thread. The whole concept of slavery is much deeper in the sense of Biblical themes. For example, we are considered to be slaves to our sin nature until God move us to be slaves of righteousness, or bondservants of Christ (rom 6).
 
Jayhawker Soule

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Tristesse said:
The bible tells you how to treat your slaves, how to mark them as your own by driving a spike through their ear, and not to beat your slaves too severely so that their not able to continue working for you.
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I love it when people fight ignorance with the most pathetic ignorance.
 
Christian Pilgrim

Christian Pilgrim

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angellous_evangellous said:
It seems that God has no serious problem with idiots.
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LOL!!! I need to break for many hours because I need to get some work completed. I find this site to be very addicting and entertaining. You guys are great! Just remember, Christ came into this world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. We are no more deserving of the grace of God then this This backwords character". I'm unable to throw the first stone because my sins are great and many.
 
michel

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drivingbackwards said:
An amazing view on TV was to watch the US beauty contest where the California representative said with few words God's position about homosexuality which is against the millions of words of Christian preachers arguing that God "loves" homosexuals.

The girl is Right and the several preachers who say the contrary of her words are priests of Satan, because God rejects homosexuals.

It is clear in the Bible that homosexuals were ruling the city of Sodom. Note that in the biblical narration the homosexuals were in control of the city to the point of enjoying the freedom of demonstrating their homosexual desires plus trying to impose them with the attempt to rape the angels of God who stayed on Lot's house!

Such a "freedom" of the homosexuals is becoming also popular in today's society, to the point that to be against such a desire makes you to be known as a "bigot".

Well, if to be against homosexuality makes me a "bigot", then MY GOD IS A BIGOT AS WELL AND I STAND WITH MY GOD.

In the Old Testament God has expressed clearly that having homosexual encounters deserve the death penalty, and God calls homosexuals as "dogs". It is also clear that in the New Testament homosexuality is rejected by the new Christian assemblies having the apostle Shaul asking homosexuals to stop such a wrong choice.

To put more clear how homosexuality is a "no no" by all means, we can read in the book of Revelation that Jesus clearly states that no fornicators, no liars, no "dogs" (read homosexuals) will enter to the new city of God.

I have the feeling that a believer in God who thinks that God loves homosexuals has been deceived by false preachers of God, because God is clear about this issue: No homosexual fits in the plan of salvation.

In order to fit in the salvation plan, the sinner must repent first, and to repent means to stop the wrongdoings and not doing them anymore. This mneans that while homosexuals keep doing their wrong sexual desires, they still are out of God's will, and the families or friends who "support" homosexual family members or friends are also part of the wrongdoings.

A true believer must take one side about this issue: or you are with God or you are against God.

I stand with what God has said and no human rights, human philosophy, and or human theories can overcome what God has said.

And, this is what FAITH is about: to stand with God regardless the opinions of humans challenging His words.

My regards.
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I will just make one point; Love the sinner, hate the sin?...............
 
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Tristesse

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Christian Pilgrim said:
I am not expert of slavery or homosexuality in the Bible. Let's discuss slavery on another thread. The whole concept of slavery is much deeper in the sense of Biblical themes. For example, we are considered to be slaves to our sin nature until God move us to be slaves of righteousness, or bondservants of Christ (rom 6).
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Ok, we'll do. But I don't care how you rationalize it, slavery is never a good thing.
 
Christian Pilgrim

Christian Pilgrim

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CarlinKnew said:
OP I sincerely hope you one day have a child who turns out to be homosexual.
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On a very serious note, many Christian kids who have been born a homosexual commit suicide, due to the ignorance and bigoted unbiblical beliefs of Christian parents regarding homosexuality. Being heterosexual or homosexual has nothing to do with loving the Lord Jesus Christ. If you are a Christian out there facing this issue, please study this website:

http://www.gaychristian.net/
 
painted wolf

painted wolf

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hey the bible god can hate as much as he wants...

My faiths god doesn't mind LGBT people at all... indeed, Creator doesn't make things without a purpose. LGBT people have an important role to play in society, otherwise god wouldn't have made them.

wa:do
 
Waymarker

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I like gays and lesbians and transexuals/transvestites,as the world would be a drabber place without 'em, in fact i think God showed his sense of humour by putting them in the world to send stuffy fundie xtians bananas :)
The Bible lists a whole lot of no-no's besides homosexuality, for example it lists simple drunkenness as a sin, yet why is it fundies seem obsessed with hassling only gays?
Some so-called christians are in very unchristian jobs, for example even working in an ordinary newsagents or convenience store means they'll be handling and selling porn mags and videos among other things.
No wonder Jesus said- "look at yourself before you even think of trying to hassle others"(Matt 7:5)

Gays lesbians and trannies are no better or worse than anybody else and will have to take their chances on Judgement Day along with the rest of us..
 
YmirGF

YmirGF

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Waymarker said:
Gays lesbians and trannies are no better or worse than anybody else and will have to take their chances on Judgement Day along with the rest of us..
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Actually I will be on vacation during the Judgment Day festivities. Frankly, I don't have time for a god that is so incredibly petty.
 
Beaudreaux

Beaudreaux

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Waymarker said:
I like gays and lesbians and transexuals/transvestites,as the world would be a drabber place without 'em, in fact i think God showed his sense of humour by putting them in the world to send stuffy fundie xtians bananas :)
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That's a God I could relate to. :)
Waymarker said:
The Bible lists a whole lot of no-no's besides homosexuality, for example it lists simple drunkenness as a sin
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I did not think it did. Can you point me to the passage?
 
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