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Only once have I heard a voice, and it scared me... I was in the shower, nice quiet peaceful place, thinking through future paths - while wondering to myself if I should go to grad school, and if I went if I would even make it, a voice said "you'll make it" - Scared me to death!!! I was naked -in the shower, I thought someone else had snuck into the bathroom - I grabbed my towel, was shaking... the voice answered a question I had been thinking - not saying - just thinking... the most upsetting thing about it was the lack of privacy. I was but naked, thoughts exposed ... not a hair on your head? Try not a hair on you entire body! And not a thought in your mind .. apatently it's 100% transparency with spirits. Look up "fear not" in the scriptutes... I'm not the only who was scared from the experience...
 

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Hmm. (Related to OP) God told you to eat bannasas?

How so?

I was once given the hint to feed my child wonder bread. .. I am a health nut, we don't eat junk food.. this kid had eaten a light bulb though - had stomach and intestines full of broken glass... the wonder bread coated everything, and he pooped it all out :)
 

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People create Gods in their own image, or, perhaps, in the image of an idealized person of their own culture. Gods are personages, rather than forces, qualities or spirits.

In the Abrahamic religions they tend to be parental figures; lawmakers and judges, demanding obedience and submission.

In popular Hinduism they're still conceived as personified principles or natural qualities, but less parental.
In philosophic Hinduism they're just convenient, human-generated spiritual foci; tools, at best only subjectively and temporarily Real.
I think the spirits who watch over us, our guardian spirits, are our relatives.
 

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So then maybe he made it to the publisher with the gospels before God did? Maybe they're really the devil's work? Do we really know otherwise? :confused:
We don't know.
Devil on one shoulder, guardian angel on the other? If the spirits are just dead people, I think heaven is as diverse as earth - on earth as it is in heaven? Or in heaven as it is on earth? Multiple heavenly countries and rulers... we can all choose which groups to associate with, which spirits to call family.
 

stvdv

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Only once have I heard a voice, and it scared me... I was in the shower, nice quiet peaceful place, thinking through future paths - while wondering to myself if I should go to grad school, and if I went if I would even make it, a voice said "you'll make it" - Scared me to death!!! I was naked -in the shower, I thought someone else had snuck into the bathroom - I grabbed my towel, was shaking... the voice answered a question I had been thinking - not saying - just thinking... the most upsetting thing about it was the lack of privacy. I was but naked, thoughts exposed ... not a hair on your head? Try not a hair on you entire body! And not a thought in your mind .. apatently it's 100% transparency with spirits. Look up "fear not" in the scriptutes... I'm not the only who was scared from the experience...

God is a good teacher, giving you positive affirmation. So, did you go for it, and did you make it?
 

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Do you think this, or feel it?
Is there empirical evidence of these spirits?
I had an experience with an Aunt who passed away... I took her place when her son, my cousin, was married. She helped me do for him what she would have done had she been there...
 
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stvdv

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I think the spirits who watch over us, our guardian spirits, are our relatives.

I know my guru watches over me. Relatives I have no experience with [only once my uncle came in a dream and gave useful info; shortly after passing away].
I am just curious. What if these (relatives) spirits reincarnate, then this "watching over us" stops?
 

Unveiled Artist

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Only once have I heard a voice, and it scared me... I was in the shower, nice quiet peaceful place, thinking through future paths - while wondering to myself if I should go to grad school, and if I went if I would even make it, a voice said "you'll make it" - Scared me to death!!! I was naked -in the shower, I thought someone else had snuck into the bathroom - I grabbed my towel, was shaking... the voice answered a question I had been thinking - not saying - just thinking... the most upsetting thing about it was the lack of privacy. I was but naked, thoughts exposed ... not a hair on your head? Try not a hair on you entire body! And not a thought in your mind .. apatently it's 100% transparency with spirits. Look up "fear not" in the scriptutes... I'm not the only who was scared from the experience...

Thank you. You know I had a similar experience minus the naked in the shower and bald head. It was years ago so my memory of thr environment is foggy. I was walking somewhere or was about to do something impulsive. A voice yelled STOP! I thought it was outside my head (though, now I know why medically we perceive inside voices outside ourselves but doesnt belittle the experience). It was literally protecting me from something. Scares the bajesus out of me.

2013 my grandmother passed away. One day walking, Im about to cross the street at a three way intersection. There is no light on that side (they shut down thr street for a month or so to finally put one up; wonder why???) Something (someone, I thought it was my grandmother) pushed me back almost making me fall. I called my friend and she said, "dont question it. Dont be anaylitical" to her it came from god, to me my grandmother.

But we all have different experiences we confirm by our said religion or other ways of making sense of the world. While psychology does explain internal voices externalized, its alright to see them in a personal light.

Which gets me thinking do people who hear gods voice the same voice I heard (were not aliens to each other; possible?)?

If so, whats the nature of this voice without our biases defining experiences in our lens not as a whole?

What exactly the nature of the voice you heard and I heard, type of thing; and, why dont you guys question it beyond scripture confirmation or cultural habit and practice?
 

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Thank you. You know I had a similar experience minus the naked in the shower and bald head. It was years ago so my memory of thr environment is foggy. I was walking somewhere or was about to do something impulsive. A voice yelled STOP! I thought it was outside my head (though, now I know why medically we perceive inside voices outside ourselves but doesnt belittle the experience). It was literally protecting me from something. Scares the bajesus out of me.

2013 my grandmother passed away. One day walking, Im about to cross the street at a three way intersection. There is no light on that side (they shut down thr street for a month or so to finally put one up; wonder why???) Something (someone, I thought it was my grandmother) pushed me back almost making me fall. I called my friend and she said, "dont question it. Dont be anaylitical" to her it came from god, to me my grandmother.

But we all have different experiences we confirm by our said religion or other ways of making sense of the world. While psychology does explain internal voices externalized, its alright to see them in a personal light.

Which gets me thinking do people who hear gods voice the same voice I heard (were not aliens to each other; possible?)?

If so, whats the nature of this voice without our biases defining experiences in our lens not as a whole?

What exactly the nature of the voice you heard and I heard, type of thing; and, why dont you guys question it beyond scripture confirmation or cultural habit and practice?

Here's another account, notice who Samuel thought it was - we are used to hearing people, so when we hear something, our first instinct is to attach it to something we recognize - like someone calling to us from another room or something... but then after the fact you realize it was a slightly different experience than the usual :)

4 That the Lord called Samuel: and he answered, Here am I.
5 And he ran unto Eli, and said, Here am I; for thou calledst me. And he said, I called not; lie down again. And he went and lay down.
6 And the Lord called yet again, Samuel. And Samuel arose and went to Eli, and said, Here am I; for thou didst call me. And he answered, I called not, my son; lie down again.
7 Now Samuel did not yet know the Lord, neither was the word of the Lord yet revealed unto him.
8 And the Lord called Samuel again the third time. And he arose and went to Eli, and said, Here am I; for thou didst call me. And Eli perceived that the Lord had called the child.
9 Therefore Eli said unto Samuel, Go, lie down: and it shall be, if he call thee, that thou shalt say, Speak, Lord; for thy servant heareth. So Samuel went and lay down in his place
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I know my guru watches over me. Relatives I have no experience with [only once my uncle came in a dream and gave useful info; shortly after passing away].
I am just curious. What if these (relatives) spirits reincarnate, then this "watching over us" stops?

We all have huge family trees - For me, it does not feel like it is the same spirit each time, although that could be different for someone else? To me it seems like the spirits come and go just as people do - sometimes there, sometimes not, and you never really know who it will be. I don't think any of us are ever alone, considering how many lives have come and gone - there are quite a few spirits out there.
 

stvdv

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Which gets me thinking do people who hear gods voice the same voice I heard (were not aliens to each other; possible?)?
If so, whats the nature of this voice without our biases defining experiences in our lens not as a whole?
What exactly the nature of the voice you heard and I heard, type of thing; and, why dont you guys question it beyond scripture confirmation or cultural habit and practice?

When this voice-thing started I questioned it a lot, meaning checking to make sure it was not my monkey mind. I remember in the beginning I told God "I only accept lines with 9 words". So I got it. Then still doubting I said "At least there must be 1 of the following in it: Sai, Shirdi, Baba, Jesus, Allah, Rama, Shiva, Krishna, Buddha". Over time I trusted my feeling, discrimination and common sense enough and became a little less picky accepting the voice.

If that is what you meant by "why dont you guys question it", I did it quite a bit. But I didn't trust anyone at that time.
 

stvdv

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We all have huge family trees - For me, it does not feel like it is the same spirit each time, although that could be different for someone else? To me it seems like the spirits come and go just as people do - sometimes there, sometimes not, and you never really know who it will be. I don't think any of us are ever alone, considering how many lives have come and gone - there are quite a few spirits out there.

Still curious. Never gave this much thought before. Reading your reply a thought came.

We had many lives, so reincarnated a lot. Others also. So true, there are quite a few spirits out there. Is it true that 1 spirit is fixed to 1 person [also after reincarnation]? If that's true then it is possible to be in contact with someone who reincarnated and is alive when you are alive I think. I long ago read a story that a mother knew what happened to her child who was on the other side of the globe.

And 1 more. Talking with spirits of animals is that also possible?
 
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osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
I set up a God standard in my life though i hold that no God exists. When someone makes a true point that brings forth a true peace, and not derision, i hold the true point as Godly. The savage blood of being human, i hold that at times i fail, and at times i succeed at upholding the light of true words spoken. If there was a God , that God would speak true words in those truly motivated to be true. God would inspire. But a literal voice, that sounds like something in the brain.
 

Phantasman

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So then maybe he made it to the publisher with the gospels before God did? Maybe they're really the devil's work? Do we really know otherwise? :confused:
Writings don't reveal truth. The Spirit of truth reveals it to the mind. Paul never received the Spirit by reading of it or the teachings of men.
 

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Still curious. Never gave this much thought before. Reading your reply a thought came.

We had many lives, so reincarnated a lot. Others also. So true, there are quite a few spirits out there. Is it true that 1 spirit is fixed to 1 person [also after reincarnation]? If that's true then it is possible to be in contact with someone who reincarnated and is alive when you are alive I think. I long ago read a story that a mother knew what happened to her child who was on the other side of the globe.

And 1 more. Talking was spirits of animals is that also possible?

Another question, why is it that we can usually not remember our previous existence? Is eternal existence monotonous death without new starts? a new name, a new shape, leaving behind our old shell to start a new life, a new existence... but there are some thing you would want to keep from previous existences. To keep the good, and leave the bad...

When I was little I had this amazing dog... I was an only child, so the dog and I were almost like siblings I guess, that is who I played with, that is who I spend my days with... The dog died as all of them do, and one night, while I was still groggy and forgetful, I heard what I thought was our dog panting next to the bed - a familiar sound, I called out to her, it felt like she was there - I heard her, when I could not see her, I remembered she was dead...
 
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... But a literal voice, that sounds like something in the brain.

until you experience it for yourself :D

Major discoveries... are not like the discovery of America, where the general nature of the discovered object is already known. Rather, they are like recognizing that one has been dreaming. — Paul Feyerabend
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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Writings don't reveal truth. The Spirit of truth reveals it to the mind. Paul never received the Spirit by reading of it or the teachings of men.

Maybe Paul was deceived. Maybe Paul is the deceiver. He said nothing of what Jesus said. Christianity is not based on Christ, it’s based on Paul.
 

Jainarayan

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Multiple heavenly countries and rulers... we can all choose which groups to associate with, which spirits to call family.

We have that sort of thing in Hinduism. Different ‘lokas’ ruled by different deities. Depending on one’s devotion, one can go to the loka of that deity.
 
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