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God wants us to love darkness and evil!

Spiderman

Veteran Member
God wanted early Christians to be decapitated, crucified, dismembered, raped, fed to wild animals, used as torches at the Olympic games, grilled alive, and be underground , living a nightmare for centuries, till Constantine and some Christians decided to stop being lambs and start being lions and killing.

But God wants you to suffer and die. Either that or he isn't omnipotent.

Whether you believe in God or not, you're gonna suffer and die. I live where George Floyd was murdered and went for a walk near Smith bridge early am hours and somebody got out of their vehicle and started firing a gun across the river.

That has happened before around here.

The only reason the city isn't still getting burned is because National guard have checkpoints and tanks driving down university.

(As I type this there are actually sirens approaching). Eventually police said essentially screw it at one point and let the buildings burn and be looted.

Justice for Floyd is important no doubt, but I'm discovering there is a lot of racism that is publicly accepted, and I've heard plenty racial slurs uttered against me , had pop and water and things chucked at me while I panhandled, that eventually I started charging vehicles head on, begging people to shoot me and getting on top of them.

The same guys that used to make fun of me salute me now.

Some guy came barging into my apartment without permission not long ago and I jumped up with a knife and shouted get the **** out out if my room, and he backed off and said "someone said you stole my card , I'm sorry".

Someone else stole from me and I entered his apartment and started searching his cupboards and backpack as he's trying to restrain me.

It was very enjoyable.

Another guy came for my neighbor and started entering my apartment and I pushed him out.

The Dude that claimed I stole from him returned with a pistol or so he claims. I didn't see it. He started acting hard so I looked him in the eyes without flinching and said "blow my brains out if you wish to enter this hallway *****!"

The guy was like twice my size too.

Another car drove up and some drunk guy said "Go home white boy. You're mamma wants you home....Come closer to the car white boy. I wanna show you my gun."

I smiled and told him " that's gonna leave a mess on the pavement for someone to clean up." Then belched as loud as a could and started walking towards the vehicle with a grin.

The guy next to him reached over and rolled up the window. They drove off.

People want to see some kind of fear. As long as you show timidity they will keep messing with you.

At age 12 I was put into a cell with Anthony Evans who raped, tortured, and drowned a girl in the Hungry horse river.

The guy had evil in his eyes, weird posture, looked like the Devil himself, would whisper to me from the bunk above and try to get me to think I was hearing voices that weren't his, make obvious sexual advances so I kept telling him to **** off!

He threatened to kill me, tell me not to sleep at night, and eventually he attacked and I tried gouging his eyes out with my fingernails, tried ripping out or crushing his trachea as hard as I could.

Officers showed up and moved me to a different cell.

I've also had arms tied up in my shirt so I couldn't move them and stabbed with plastic shanks.

Last time I got arrested, Minneapolis police yanked my arm out of socket , and in jail they told me to put my arm on the wall and I couldn't lift it.

They had someone come feel my arm and insisted there was nothing wrong with it.

I asked for a nurse. They said, "we will bring you gandalf" and denied me medical care.

I started making some noise from the pain and was told "shut up."

I actually had to wait till after discharge, then call 911, then have X-rays, and have my arm put back into socket.

My attorney got the ROI and is getting the charge hopefully dropped because of excessive force but I'm told if I wasn't white I'd have a lawsuit against Minneapolis police.

Whatever, someone is slowly dying in agony and horror somewhere , so nothing to complain about here.

However, if I truly love the nightmare and suffering, I'm going to be way more happy, way stronger, way all around better person.

If you love suffering, addictions can be overcome , you can get better grades, work harder, have more self control, and all kinds of benefits.

Anyway,
I may have shared this, I explain more here in video, why God wants us to love darkness and evil. Bible says he creates evil, and even if he didn't, he chooses to refuse to heal and guide people, leaving everyone who seeks him divided and confused, because he would find the movie boring without drama, action, death, and war.

It's also because he doesn't want us to be cry babys always running away and scared of our own shadow.

People that love suffering, smile at whatever the news is, and love being terrified, will be more happy people than those who hate it.

It's a sick world so might as well enjoy being sick because you will die anyway.

But someone on other site says he just bought me a Joker costume. I hope it fits. I'm excited about my vocation.

Joker was inspired by a man whose face was cut so that he had a constant grin.

To have genuine unshakable happiness in every circumstance and always smile and love afflictions is truly a big secret to happier world.

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Thoughts?
 

thomas t

non-denominational Christian
I disagree with the title.
God wanted early Christians to be decapitated, crucified, dismembered, raped, fed to wild animals, used as torches at the Olympic games, grilled alive, and be underground , living a nightmare for centuries, till Constantine and some Christians decided to stop being lambs and start being lions and killing.

But God wants you to suffer and die. Either that or he isn't omnipotent.
there is free will, you seem to have forgotten that.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I disagree with the title.

there is free will, you seem to have forgotten that.
no,
I haven't.

God could heal people and leaves them confused and full of disorders.

Also, God in Scripture violates free will all the time.

God could protect a child without violating free will by simply giving pedophiles and murderers heart attacks or healing them psychologically.

God could also not have created the Devil or stop the devil from tempting people.

God also didn't have to curse everyone with original sin and curse all the descendants of Ham or curse all kinds of people.

You seem to have forgotten that God wants people to suffer. Have you read the Bible?
 

thomas t

non-denominational Christian
God could heal people and leaves them confused and full of disorders.[...]
healing them psychologically
You don't have to be ill to abuse others. There are people who are very sane and abuse others, too, I think.
Look at the economy. Volkswagen co-owns a Chinese company that provides Myanmar's army with lorries. Regardless of all the human rights abuses committed by them. All they want is money.
Volkswagen is made up of sane people, otherwise they wouldn't be that successful.
Some American firms aren't better, I'm afraid.
God could also not have created the Devil or stop the devil from tempting people.
People could just decide to not obey the devil.
Free will.

I assume that the devil was created pure. He just changed behavior. Also that one has free will.


In general God does not want anyone to suffer, in my opinion.
Have you read the Bible?
I am a Christian, what do you think?
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
You don't have to be ill to abuse others. There are people who are very sane and abuse others, too, I think.
Look at the economy. Volkswagen co-owns a Chinese company that provides Myanmar's army with lorries. Regardless of all the human rights abuses committed by them. All they want is money.
Volkswagen is made up of sane people, otherwise they wouldn't be that successful.
Some American firms aren't better, I'm afraid.

People could just decide to not obey the devil.
Free will.

I assume that the devil was created pure. He just changed behavior. Also that one has free will.


In general God does not want anyone to suffer, in my opinion.

I am a Christian, what do you think?
People often can't decide to stop doing evil because they think evil is good. Muslims think it's good to commit terrorism because the Koran commands many calls to violence and even torture infidels and stone adulterers and cut off hands of thiefs.

Christians and Jews have committed genocide because the Bible repeatedly commands it and almighty God kills more babies in Scripture than all 21st century abortion Doctors combined, I'd bet with all his commanding genocide and drowning the world.

blind people can't see because God wants them blind. I have prayed a thousand times to see and I'm still blind according to most Christians, and in my opinion they are more blind then me, so it's God's fault no doubt.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
God wanted early Christians to be decapitated, crucified, dismembered, raped, fed to wild animals, used as torches at the Olympic games, grilled alive, and be underground , living a nightmare for centuries, till Constantine and some Christians decided to stop being lambs and start being lions and killing.

But God wants you to suffer and die. Either that or he isn't omnipotent.

Whether you believe in God or not, you're gonna suffer and die. I live where George Floyd was murdered and went for a walk near Smith bridge early am hours and somebody got out of their vehicle and started firing a gun across the river.

That has happened before around here.

The only reason the city isn't still getting burned is because National guard have checkpoints and tanks driving down university.

(As I type this there are actually sirens approaching). Eventually police said essentially screw it at one point and let the buildings burn and be looted.

Justice for Floyd is important no doubt, but I'm discovering there is a lot of racism that is publicly accepted, and I've heard plenty racial slurs uttered against me , had pop and water and things chucked at me while I panhandled, that eventually I started charging vehicles head on, begging people to shoot me and getting on top of them.

The same guys that used to make fun of me salute me now.

Some guy came barging into my apartment without permission not long ago and I jumped up with a knife and shouted get the **** out out if my room, and he backed off and said "someone said you stole my card , I'm sorry".

Someone else stole from me and I entered his apartment and started searching his cupboards and backpack as he's trying to restrain me.

It was very enjoyable.

Another guy came for my neighbor and started entering my apartment and I pushed him out.

The Dude that claimed I stole from him returned with a pistol or so he claims. I didn't see it. He started acting hard so I looked him in the eyes without flinching and said "blow my brains out if you wish to enter this hallway *****!"

The guy was like twice my size too.

Another car drove up and some drunk guy said "Go home white boy. You're mamma wants you home....Come closer to the car white boy. I wanna show you my gun."

I smiled and told him " that's gonna leave a mess on the pavement for someone to clean up." Then belched as loud as a could and started walking towards the vehicle with a grin.

The guy next to him reached over and rolled up the window. They drove off.

People want to see some kind of fear. As long as you show timidity they will keep messing with you.

At age 12 I was put into a cell with Anthony Evans who raped, tortured, and drowned a girl in the Hungry horse river.

The guy had evil in his eyes, weird posture, looked like the Devil himself, would whisper to me from the bunk above and try to get me to think I was hearing voices that weren't his, make obvious sexual advances so I kept telling him to **** off!

He threatened to kill me, tell me not to sleep at night, and eventually he attacked and I tried gouging his eyes out with my fingernails, tried ripping out or crushing his trachea as hard as I could.

Officers showed up and moved me to a different cell.

I've also had arms tied up in my shirt so I couldn't move them and stabbed with plastic shanks.

Last time I got arrested, Minneapolis police yanked my arm out of socket , and in jail they told me to put my arm on the wall and I couldn't lift it.

They had someone come feel my arm and insisted there was nothing wrong with it.

I asked for a nurse. They said, "we will bring you gandalf" and denied me medical care.

I started making some noise from the pain and was told "shut up."

I actually had to wait till after discharge, then call 911, then have X-rays, and have my arm put back into socket.

My attorney got the ROI and is getting the charge hopefully dropped because of excessive force but I'm told if I wasn't white I'd have a lawsuit against Minneapolis police.

Whatever, someone is slowly dying in agony and horror somewhere , so nothing to complain about here.

However, if I truly love the nightmare and suffering, I'm going to be way more happy, way stronger, way all around better person.

If you love suffering, addictions can be overcome , you can get better grades, work harder, have more self control, and all kinds of benefits.

Anyway,
I may have shared this, I explain more here in video, why God wants us to love darkness and evil. Bible says he creates evil, and even if he didn't, he chooses to refuse to heal and guide people, leaving everyone who seeks him divided and confused, because he would find the movie boring without drama, action, death, and war.

It's also because he doesn't want us to be cry babys always running away and scared of our own shadow.

People that love suffering, smile at whatever the news is, and love being terrified, will be more happy people than those who hate it.

It's a sick world so might as well enjoy being sick because you will die anyway.

But someone on other site says he just bought me a Joker costume. I hope it fits. I'm excited about my vocation.

Joker was inspired by a man whose face was cut so that he had a constant grin.

To have genuine unshakable happiness in every circumstance and always smile and love afflictions is truly a big secret to happier world.



Thoughts?
God has delegated the power and responsibility for man to rule the world, administer justice and subdue evil.

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Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I disagree with the title.

there is free will, you seem to have forgotten that.
Far, far, far too often, "free will" seems to be a one-sided affair, don't you think? I mean, say somebody sneaks up behind you, quickly grabs your hair and draws a machete across your throat, partially decapitating you. Now I grant, your attacker seems to be exhibiting some sort of "free will," but where is yours? Why, if you believe so strongly in it, don't you have it in equal measure?

Or do you think that you would, in that moment, freely will your head to be severed from your body?
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
God has delegated the power and responsibility for man to rule the world, administer justice and subdue evil.

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No, because there is next to nothing I can do about it. I've attempted many times with many other people. It doesn't work.

I used to welcome homeless mentally ill people to crash at my apartment and they start coming onto me, trying to manipulate me into sexual favors, start masturbating, keep offering money or drugs when I say no, steal from me, and eventually I decided to say enough is enough.

Your meme makes no sense. I don't go raping and murdering people and if I kill someone, it's going to be in self-defense.

Regarding famine, I don't know who is starving to death and yes I've tried helping out but I'm not omnipresent to be there for the people starving to death.

No, if God is omnipotent, then he is responsible.

He doesn't anoint our leaders to be good leaders and repeatedly leaves us with imbeciles as leaders and spiritual shepherds who cause wars and atrocities.

God is at fault. That's obvious!
 

Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you
Dear @Spiderman

Where to begin and how to express things not too longwinded...?

You speak of God.

Yet from the view that God would have, life/being/existence, can never be about particulars. It cannot be about me, about you, about our neighbour. Nor can it be about the specific villages, states, countries, continents, planets, galaxies that we occupy.

And it cannot be about the general. It cannot be about our nations, our ethnicities, our genders, our sexualities, our faiths, our politics.

To God, life/being/existence can only ever be about the sum of all of those. And not only about the state of that sum today, but about its state over time (including tomorrow).

There is just no way for a tiny part of that sum (us) to comprehend that God-perspective.

What you write about is relevant to the whole, yes. But as to in what way and as to being able to pass judgement on God, the human perspective is not broad enough.


Humbly
Hermit
 

thomas t

non-denominational Christian
People often can't decide to stop doing evil because they think evil is good.
in business, they often rather just don't care, I think.
Christians [...] have committed genocide because the Bible repeatedly commands it
There are Christians by name who committed genocide. However, the Bible does not command it. Nowhere in the Bible.

almighty God kills more babies in Scripture than all 21st century abortion Doctors combined, I'd bet with all his commanding genocide and drowning the world.
Give it some thought, Spiderman: what happens to (living ) babies if their mothers die?
I have prayed a thousand times to see and I'm still blind according to most Christians, and in my opinion they are more blind then me, so it's God's fault no doubt.
You claim to be very knowledgeable though. This is at least how I see your thread.
 

thomas t

non-denominational Christian
Far, far, far too often, "free will" seems to be a one-sided affair, don't you think? I mean, say somebody sneaks up behind you, quickly grabs your hair and draws a machete across your throat, partially decapitating you. Now I grant, your attacker seems to be exhibiting some sort of "free will," but where is yours? Why, if you believe so strongly in it, don't you have it in equal measure?

Or do you think that you would, in that moment, freely will your head to be severed from your body?
man also has free will to disable the free will of others.
That's included in the orders of creation, as I see it.
However, society also can have a free will to fight crime.
Hence, it isn't one sided at all.
Often, it is entire armies that commit human rights abuses. Such as murdering.

So, lets get back to the example of Volkswagen I gave, the whole company does not care about the Myanmar army beheading peaceful protesters.
All that Volkswagen shareholders want is money.

That's also an act of free will. They could do something, such as selling their shares the moment Volkswagen buys into the Chinese company. Or the moment the hear that Volkswagen invests in the same regions where thousands of Uighurs are getting tortured.
But they don't. They prefer money over human lives.
That's their choice. Free will again, as sad as it may seem.
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
There are Christians by name who committed genocide.

No true Scotsman.

However, the Bible does not command it. Nowhere in the Bible.

2 This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
No, because there is next to nothing I can do about it. I've attempted many times with many other people. It doesn't work.

I used to welcome homeless mentally ill people to crash at my apartment and they start coming onto me, trying to manipulate me into sexual favors, start masturbating, keep offering money or drugs when I say no, steal from me, and eventually I decided to say enough is enough.

Your meme makes no sense. I don't go raping and murdering people and if I kill someone, it's going to be in self-defense.

Regarding famine, I don't know who is starving to death and yes I've tried helping out but I'm not omnipresent to be there for the people starving to death.

No, if God is omnipotent, then he is responsible.

He doesn't anoint our leaders to be good leaders and repeatedly leaves us with imbeciles as leaders and spiritual shepherds who cause wars and atrocities.

God is at fault. That's obvious!
Mentally ill people shouldn’t be living on the streets to begin with. It was your naïve belief that you could fix them by taking them in. They should be in kind, rehabilitative, self supporting institutional colonies. Incurable criminals and criminally insane people should never return to society.

The world can get serious about highly addictive drug production and distribution not by going after hopelessly addicted addicts, but by executing dealers and producers. Both the production and distribution of opiates, crystal meth and other such drugs IS a violent crime and should be treated as such.

Even in democracies humans elect and accept corrupt leaders, we could demand better.
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
God has delegated the power and responsibility for man to rule the world, administer justice and subdue evil.

Then firstly, god didn't delegate nearly enough power to prevent all evil and suffering (natural disasters, for example), and secondly, god must be somewhat dimwitted to entrust that responsibility to the flawed humans it created.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
Then firstly, god didn't delegate nearly enough power to prevent all evil and suffering (natural disasters, for example), and secondly, god must be somewhat dimwitted to entrust that responsibility to the flawed humans it created.
All evil and certainly natural disasters can't be avoided. The human race is supposed to be autonomous and self governing.
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
All evil and certainly natural disasters can't be avoided.

So, if there is a creator god, they must be its fault.

The human race is supposed to be autonomous and self governing.

Perhaps, again if there is a creator god, it should have made better humans that were more up to the job.

Looks like shoddy design work on both counts.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
So, if there is a creator god, they must be its fault.



Perhaps, again if there is a creator god, it should have made better humans that were more up to the job.

Looks like shoddy design work on both counts.
Scaffolding. Life experience is the "scaffolding" to the emerging child of God reared in an environment of potential evil and good. Its by design. You were once 5 years old, it served a purpose. So it is on such a world.
 
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