God's Name Removed from the Bible

[savagewind]

So, what broad ideas do you think have been corrupted?

I think I already told you one of them. Shall I repeat myself 1000 times? We shall batter down that ignore wall.....

 

[outhouse]

She can't see the post. Welcome to the party!

Its a good thing actually.

its not about her factual refusal of education.


Its about providing an atmosphere for furthering the education of religion.


And she factually fights it, like she fights the facts of evolution trying to degrade science from ignorance .

 

[outhouse]

I think I already told you one of them. Shall I repeat myself 1000 times?

They have not been corrupted.

Changed does not mean corrupted.



It also ignores how all of the books were private collections edited over a long period of time.


Muslims make that false claim from a point of severe biblical ignorance and fanaticism

 

[savagewind]

Its a good thing actually.

its not about her factual refusal of education.


Its about providing an atmosphere for furthering the education of religion.


And she factually fights it, like she fights the facts of evolution trying to degrade science from ignorance .

I'm not sure I know what this means. But I do know she believes it is we who are fighting against religious education because we won't eat at the table of the faithful and discreet slave. I kid you not.

 

[savagewind]

They have not been corrupted.

Changed does not mean corrupted.

What has not been corrupted?

 

[Sees]

I believe Jehovah is the correct pronunciation in English, just as Jesus is the correct pronunciation in English. It is not known how either name was pronounced in ancient Hebrew. Neither are God's name and Jesus name pronounced the same way in all modern languages. But to use that as a reason to remove almost 7,0000 occurrences of the Divine Name from the book he authored is reprehensible and disgraceful, IMO.

I don't see how using a title could be more wrong, reprehensible, disgraceful, etc. than guessing a name or solidifying one of the guesses.

 

[sojourner]

I think I already told you one of them. Shall I repeat myself 1000 times? We shall batter down that ignore wall.....

Is this:

I know that. I think we are talking about the people who tell us what the Bible is and says. Many people believe very strongly that 1. God's name was removed and replaced with LORD and 2. God has not allowed mistakes in it.
I have said Jesus did not say to make disciples. The people who believe he DID say it tell me God would not allow such a mistake so what it says it what was intended. I say it was translated and interpreted. They say God directed all of it so that there is nothing in it that is misleading. I don't say that.

what you're talking about? Because none of this represents a broad concept.

 

[Pegg]

I don't see how using a title could be more wrong, reprehensible, disgraceful, etc. than guessing a name or solidifying one of the guesses.

my mother in law was Greek and didn't speak English very well... she could not pronounce my name correctly, but I could still recognise the pronunciation she did use. And when she used it, I knew she was talking to me.

Mis-pronunciation is not the problem. The problem is in the fact that it is not pronounced at all.

As for Gods name, what we know of it is that the earliest christians transliterated it a particular way and we continue to transliterate it the same way. And in different languages, it is pronounced and spelt differently.

Aneityum: Ihova
Arawak: Jehovah
Awabakal: Yehóa
Bangi: Yawe
Batak (Toba): Jahowa
Benga: Jěhova
Bolia: Yawe
Bube: Yehovah
Bullom So: Jehovah
Chácobo: Jahué
Cherokee: Yihowa
Chin (Hakha): Zahova
Chippewa: Jehovah
Choctaw: Chihowa
Croatian: Jehova
Dakota: Jehowa
Dobu: Ieoba
Douala: Yehowa
Dutch: Jehovah
Efate (North): Yehova
Efik: Jehovah
English: Jehovah
Éwé: Yehowa
Fang: Jehovâ
Fijian: Jiova
French: IHVH
Ga: Iehowa
German: Jehovah; Jehova
Gibario (dialect of Kerewo): Iehova
Grebo: Jehova
Hawaiian: Iehova
Hebrew: יהוה
Hindustani: Yihováh
Hiri Motu: Iehova
Ho-Chunk (Winnebago): Jehowa
Ila: Yaave
Iliku (dialect of Lusengo): Yawe
Indonesian: YAHWEH
Kala Lagaw Ya: Iehovan
Kalanga: Yehova; Yahwe
Kalenjin: Jehovah
Kerewo: Iehova
Kiluba: Yehova
Kipsigis: Jehoba
Kiribati: Iehova
Kisonge: Yehowa
Korean: 여호와
Kosraean: Jeova
Kuanua: Ieova
Laotian: Yehowa
Lele: Jehova
Lewo: Yehova
Lingala: Yawe
Logo: Yehova
Lomongo: Yawe; Yova
Lonwolwol: Jehovah
Lugbara: Yehova
Luimbi: Yehova
Luna: Yeoba
Lunda: Yehova
Luo: Yawe
Luvale: Yehova
Malagasy: Jehovah; Iehôvah
Malo: Iova
Marquesan: Iehova
Marshallese: Jeova
Maskelynes: Iova
Mende: Yewoi
Mentawai: Jehoba
Meriam: Iehoua
Misima-Paneati: Iehova
Mizo: Jehovan; Jihova’n
Mohawk: Yehovah
Mortlockese: Jioua; Jiona
Motu: Iehova
Mpongwe (dialect of Myene): Jehova
Muskogee: Cehofv
Myene: Yeôva
Naga, Angami: Jihova
Naga, Konyak: Jihova
Naga, Lotha: Jihova
Naga, Mao: Jihova
Naga, Northern Rengma: Jihova
Naga, Sangtam: Jihova
Nandi: Jehova
Narrinyeri: Jehovah
Nauruan: Jehova
Navajo: Jîho’vah
Ndau: Jehova
Nembe: Jehovah
Nengone (or, Maré): Iehova
Ngando: Yawe
Ntomba: Yawe
Nukuoro: Jehova
Polish: Jehowa
Portuguese: Iáhve
Rarotongan: Jehova; Iehova
Rerep: Iova
Rotuman: Jihova
Sakao: Ihova; Iehova
Samoan: Ieova
Seneca: Ya’wĕn
Sengele: Yawe
Sesotho: Yehofa
Sie: Iehōva
Spanish: Jehová; Yahvé; YHWH; Yahweh
Sranantongo: Jehova
Sukuma: Yahuwa; Jakwe
Tahitian: Iehova
Teke-Eboo: Yawe
Temne: Yehṓfa; Yehofa
Thai: Yahowa
Toaripi: Jehova; Iehova
Tongan: Jehova; Jihova; Sihova
Tswana: Jehofa; Yehova; Yehofa
Umbundu: Yehova
Uripiv: Iova
Wampanoag: Jehovah
Xhosa: Yehova
Zande: Yekova
Zulu: Jehova; YAHWE

 

[sojourner]

my mother in law was Greek and didn't speak English very well... she could not pronounce my name correctly, but I could still recognise the pronunciation she did use. And when she used it, I knew she was talking to me.

Mis-pronunciation is not the problem. The problem is in the fact that it is not pronounced at all.

The Jews don't seem to have a problem with not pronouncing it -- and it is, after all, their God that the Christians appropriated.

 

[Pegg]

The Jews don't seem to have a problem with not pronouncing it -- and it is, after all, their God that the Christians appropriated.

The Jewish people fell into a tradition of not pronouncing the name which has lasted right up till today. But Jesus did not follow Jewish traditions as we know. And he himself was a Jew... so were his first followers. So those early christians surely must have known Gods name and the way they used it should be the basis for how its used today.

Jesus was Gods son... im sure he knew how to pronounce his fathers name. And he surely made that known to his disciples for he said:'

John 17:25 Righteous Father, the world has, indeed, not come to know you, but I know you, and these have come to know that you sent me. 26 I have made your name known to them and will make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them.”

 

[Nada]

my mother in law was Greek and didn't speak English very well... she could not pronounce my name correctly, but I could still recognise the pronunciation she did use. And when she used it, I knew she was talking to me.

Mis-pronunciation is not the problem. The problem is in the fact that it is not pronounced at all.

As for Gods name, what we know of it is that the earliest christians transliterated it a particular way and we continue to transliterate it the same way. And in different languages, it is pronounced and spelt differently.

Aneityum: Ihova
Arawak: Jehovah
Awabakal: Yehóa
Bangi: Yawe
Batak (Toba): Jahowa
Benga: Jěhova
Bolia: Yawe
Bube: Yehovah
Bullom So: Jehovah
Chácobo: Jahué
Cherokee: Yihowa
Chin (Hakha): Zahova
Chippewa: Jehovah
Choctaw: Chihowa
Croatian: Jehova
Dakota: Jehowa
Dobu: Ieoba
Douala: Yehowa
Dutch: Jehovah
Efate (North): Yehova
Efik: Jehovah
English: Jehovah
Éwé: Yehowa
Fang: Jehovâ
Fijian: Jiova
French: IHVH
Ga: Iehowa
German: Jehovah; Jehova
Gibario (dialect of Kerewo): Iehova
Grebo: Jehova
Hawaiian: Iehova
Hebrew: יהוה
Hindustani: Yihováh
Hiri Motu: Iehova
Ho-Chunk (Winnebago): Jehowa
Ila: Yaave
Iliku (dialect of Lusengo): Yawe
Indonesian: YAHWEH
Kala Lagaw Ya: Iehovan
Kalanga: Yehova; Yahwe
Kalenjin: Jehovah
Kerewo: Iehova
Kiluba: Yehova
Kipsigis: Jehoba
Kiribati: Iehova
Kisonge: Yehowa
Korean: 여호와
Kosraean: Jeova
Kuanua: Ieova
Laotian: Yehowa
Lele: Jehova
Lewo: Yehova
Lingala: Yawe
Logo: Yehova
Lomongo: Yawe; Yova
Lonwolwol: Jehovah
Lugbara: Yehova
Luimbi: Yehova
Luna: Yeoba
Lunda: Yehova
Luo: Yawe
Luvale: Yehova
Malagasy: Jehovah; Iehôvah
Malo: Iova
Marquesan: Iehova
Marshallese: Jeova
Maskelynes: Iova
Mende: Yewoi
Mentawai: Jehoba
Meriam: Iehoua
Misima-Paneati: Iehova
Mizo: Jehovan; Jihova’n
Mohawk: Yehovah
Mortlockese: Jioua; Jiona
Motu: Iehova
Mpongwe (dialect of Myene): Jehova
Muskogee: Cehofv
Myene: Yeôva
Naga, Angami: Jihova
Naga, Konyak: Jihova
Naga, Lotha: Jihova
Naga, Mao: Jihova
Naga, Northern Rengma: Jihova
Naga, Sangtam: Jihova
Nandi: Jehova
Narrinyeri: Jehovah
Nauruan: Jehova
Navajo: Jîho’vah
Ndau: Jehova
Nembe: Jehovah
Nengone (or, Maré): Iehova
Ngando: Yawe
Ntomba: Yawe
Nukuoro: Jehova
Polish: Jehowa
Portuguese: Iáhve
Rarotongan: Jehova; Iehova
Rerep: Iova
Rotuman: Jihova
Sakao: Ihova; Iehova
Samoan: Ieova
Seneca: Ya’wĕn
Sengele: Yawe
Sesotho: Yehofa
Sie: Iehōva
Spanish: Jehová; Yahvé; YHWH; Yahweh
Sranantongo: Jehova
Sukuma: Yahuwa; Jakwe
Tahitian: Iehova
Teke-Eboo: Yawe
Temne: Yehṓfa; Yehofa
Thai: Yahowa
Toaripi: Jehova; Iehova
Tongan: Jehova; Jihova; Sihova
Tswana: Jehofa; Yehova; Yehofa
Umbundu: Yehova
Uripiv: Iova
Wampanoag: Jehovah
Xhosa: Yehova
Zande: Yekova
Zulu: Jehova; YAHWE

We're on the same page my friend.Check out post #43.

 

[savagewind]

Is this:

what you're talking about? Because none of this represents a broad concept.

Yes it does. Are we to make disciples or be disciples? Both occupations are extremely broad.

 

[Pegg]

We're on the same page my friend.Check out post #43.

of course we are... we are feeding from the same fountain

 

[Nada]

Yes! "Hey there, all you thirsty ones,
Come and drink life’s water free......."

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102009102

 

[savagewind]

Yes!

Do you mean drinking from the same fountain? She said "eating".

 

[savagewind]

of course we are... we are feeding from the same fountain

See here please.

 

[sojourner]

Yes it does. Are we to make disciples or be disciples? Both occupations are extremely broad.

Are you talking about Matt. 28?

 

[savagewind]

Are you talking about Matt. 28?

I am.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

We're on the same page my friend.Check out post #43.

You mean copying form the same website. :biglaugh:

 

[Tabb]

The Jewish people fell into a tradition of not pronouncing the name which has lasted right up till today. But Jesus did not follow Jewish traditions as we know. And he himself was a Jew... so were his first followers. So those early christians surely must have known Gods name and the way they used it should be the basis for how its used today.

Jesus was Gods son... im sure he knew how to pronounce his fathers name. And he surely made that known to his disciples for he said:'

John 17:25 Righteous Father, the world has, indeed, not come to know you, but I know you, and these have come to know that you sent me. 26 I have made your name known to them and will make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them.”

Maybe you could start by getting Yeshua name right. Jesus is the English translation of the Greek translation. Also Jehovah isn't a Hebrew name, It's Latin. Why make it a point to say people are not calling him by his proper name than base your religion on the latin version of Gods name. I had a neighbor who was French whose name was Michel. It would of been insulting him to call him Michael.
I have a lot of family who are witnesses and they can never get me past that point.