God's Omniscience versus Free Will

[FearGod]

In what way do you find the universe 'complex'?

in the way comparing it to cornflakes theory,do you think otherwise.

 

[PolyHedral]

i didn't say a person but an intelligent entity,whereas you assume the unconscious nature regardless of using theories in trying to explain it.

Unconscious nature is all the explanation needed. For instance, large clouds of gas will form solar systems if left alone.

 

[Tiberius]

in the way comparing it to cornflakes theory,do you think otherwise.

I never said that the complexity of the universe was like cornflakes being sorted.

I said that cornflakes being sorted was one of many examples of how a non-intelligent, purely naturalistic process can result in an ordered situation.

 

[FearGod]

I never said that the complexity of the universe was like cornflakes being sorted.

I said that cornflakes being sorted was one of many examples of how a non-intelligent, purely naturalistic process can result in an ordered situation.

Your examples are incomparable to the complexity of the universe.

Changing the figure in randomness for cornflakes,dunes,rocks...etc every and each second with variable different new shapes isn't a reasonable example compared to the steady uniform universe in action.

 

[Heathen Hammer]

in the way comparing it to cornflakes theory,do you think otherwise.

Yes, I do. Each follows a basic, limited, and discernible set of rules and winds up sorting out into obvious, logical strata. One is a microcosm of the other, in action.

Im sorry corn flake settling during shipping is so incomprehensible to you.

 

[PolyHedral]

Your examples are incomparable to the complexity of the universe.

Changing the figure in randomness for cornflakes,dunes,rocks...etc every and each second with variable different new shapes isn't a reasonable example compared to the steady uniform universe in action.

The universe only looks uniform because all the noise cancels out.

 

[FearGod]

Yes, I do. Each follows a basic, limited, and discernible set of rules and winds up sorting out into obvious, logical strata. One is a microcosm of the other, in action.

Im sorry corn flake settling during shipping is so incomprehensible to you.

And such silly examples did indeed increase my believe about how great is the creator of this universe which i am sorry that you're not able to comprehend.

 

[Heathen Hammer]

And such silly examples did indeed increase my believe about how great is the creator of this universe which i am sorry that you're not able to comprehend.

I totally comprehend your views, dude. That's why I'm making jokes of them.
You're just confused, desperate, and prefer simple answers to the harshness of reality.

 

[FearGod]

I totally comprehend your views, dude. That's why I'm making jokes of them.
You're just confused, desperate, and prefer simple answers to the harshness of reality.

So better to think the harder way,corn flakes.

 

[Skwim]

And such silly examples did indeed increase my believe about how great is the creator of this universe which i am sorry that you're not able to comprehend.

Face it, they got you dead to rights.

 

[waitasec]

So better to think the harder way,corn flakes.

so belief trumps reality?


good luck with that.

 

[Heathen Hammer]

So better to think the harder way,corn flakes.

So better not to think at all, Amazed Guy.

 

[Tiberius]

Your examples are incomparable to the complexity of the universe.

Changing the figure in randomness for cornflakes,dunes,rocks...etc every and each second with variable different new shapes isn't a reasonable example compared to the steady uniform universe in action.

I never said they were, and my examples were never intended to be that.

My examples were only ever meant to illustrate how a simple action that was not dictated by an intelligent entity could result in a non-random outcome.

So stop trying to make that I was trying to do more. You're only attacking a strawman of what I said.