God's opposition to homosexuality. Why?

[tarekabdo12]

ah ha now i get it... are you bi sexual? did you chose to live as hetero

no , the human instinct guides people to be hetero and they derange this instinct. We-Muslims-were ordered not look even for the genitalia of the same sex as they genitals may be appealing towards sex of the same type. The derangement arises from conditions experienced through life not from the natural built.

 

[Skwim]

The derangement arises from conditions experienced through life not from the natural built.

So homosexuality isn't chosen at all. It arises because of the various experiences the individual undergoes.

 

[waitasec]

there's a vast difference between having a contradicting view-which can be accepted- and being impolite and deriding others.

I'm really happy I made you laugh, you don't know how much I adore you dear.

but as the Qur'an says " Let them laugh a little as they will cry a lot"

this is an overt display of justified passive aggressive vengeance....not very polite or peaceful...

 

[waitasec]

no , the human instinct guides people to be hetero and they derange this instinct. We-Muslims-were ordered not look even for the genitalia of the same sex as they genitals may be appealing towards sex of the same type. The derangement arises from conditions experienced through life not from the natural built.

yes it is....
especially for bi-sexuals....
if it this is appealing on a broad scale, maybe it's a natural inclination...

oh yeah, that's right....women are to be covered from head to toe....wonder why they weren't born with a burqa on

 

[McBell]

there's a vast difference between having a contradicting view-which can be accepted- and being impolite and deriding others.

I agree.
Now we just have to figure out why you are being impolite and deriding homosexuals.

I suspect that you think your god is just fine with it.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I suspect that you think your god is just fine with it.

Either way, it's very convenient when one's particular version of god shares their same biases and prejudices. This way they can blame it on god, and feel perfectly justified in their self-righteous hate.

 

[McBell]

no , the human instinct guides people to be hetero and they derange this instinct. We-Muslims-were ordered not look even for the genitalia of the same sex as they genitals may be appealing towards sex of the same type. The derangement arises from conditions experienced through life not from the natural built.

Make up your mind.

One wonders why Allah fears men looking at the genitalia of other men...
I mean, if there were any truth to 'humans instinct guides people to be heterosexual' then how does looking at the genitalia of the same sex make you gay?

Sounds to me like more straw grasping.

 

[waitasec]

I agree.
Now we just have to figure out why you are being impolite and deriding homosexuals.

excellent point

I suspect that you think your god is just fine with it.

and who's gonna argue with god....?


skeptics and critical thinkers, that's who.
(i'd like to think i'm a apart of that crowd)

 

[tarekabdo12]

So homosexuality isn't chosen at all. It arises because of the various experiences the individual undergoes.

Many of these experiences are chosen and also the person can choose to change this pattern once more. I think also you can blame the society.

 

[McBell]

excellent point

One that I am sure will be dismissed quickly...

and who's gonna argue with god....?

Well, IF god ever bothers to actually show up...
I will.

Until such time as god decides to stop hiding, I will have to merely deal with his followers.

skeptics and critical thinkers, that's who.
(i'd like to think i'm a apart of that crowd)

Oh, I imagine there are followers of different gods willing to argue with him.

 

[tarekabdo12]

I agree.
Now we just have to figure out why you are being impolite and deriding homosexuals.

I suspect that you think your god is just fine with it.

I'm not deriding them personally, I'm contradicting an idea that seems to me devastating like contradicting smoking and addiction.

 

[McBell]

I'm not deriding them personally, I'm contradicting an idea that seems to me devastating like contradicting smoking and addiction.

there's a vast difference between having a contradicting view-which can be accepted- and being impolite and deriding others.


So it is just fine to group them all together before you deride them because then you are not deriding them individually?

Split hairs much?

 

[McBell]

Many of these experiences are chosen and also the person can choose to change this pattern once more. I think also you can blame the society.

I definitely blame society right along with god.

 

[tarekabdo12]

Make up your mind.

One wonders why Allah fears men looking at the genitalia of other men...
I mean, if there were any truth to 'humans instinct guides people to be heterosexual' then how does looking at the genitalia of the same sex make you gay?

Sounds to me like more straw grasping.

Because humans have a sexual instinct that is aroused by the image of genitalia, it's more i relation to that of the other sex but it can be elicited by the view of the genitals of the same sex , as well. However, sex is not genitals, it's a great emotional relation & as I mentioned before homosexual wasn't found to carry real emotions at least for a long period as it is not the constructed right way. I also mentioned before that people may have a tendency for homosexuality as they have a tendency to addict drugs and nicotine so we should keep away from eliciting these ignoble whims and prevent them from abounding as they are not the right thing that matches our whole nature which is obvious from the studies posted previously.

 

[tarekabdo12]

I definitely blame society right along with god.

I don't understand what you mean

 

[tarekabdo12]

there's a vast difference between having a contradicting view-which can be accepted- and being impolite and deriding others.


So it is just fine to group them all together before you deride them because then you are not deriding them individually?

Split hairs much?

i mentioned studies not derision. Moreover, if some1 is doing something wrong and u admonished him this is not rendered as derision

 

[Skwim]

Many of these experiences are chosen and also the person can choose to change this pattern once more. I think also you can blame the society.

So why would anyone choose an experience that would lead to homosexuality if one is instinctually predisposed to heterosexuality? It doesn't make sense. It would be like choosing to paint one's house blue when you prefer cream.

 

[McBell]

i mentioned studies not derision.

You presented propaganda to support your derision.

Moreover, if some1 is doing something wrong and u admonished him this is not rendered as derision

You have as yet to demonstrate how homosexuality is wrong.

So basically what you are saying is that is is just fine for you to do the same thing as I am doing but I am wrong for what I am doing because.... you dislike it?

 

[McBell]

I don't understand what you mean

Society is just as to blame as god.

Now since you seem to think that god is blameless...

 

[Kilgore Trout]

i mentioned studies not derision. Moreover, if some1 is doing something wrong and u admonished him this is not rendered as derision

Blah, blah, blah - all you people are the same. You hate homosexuals because you find it yucky. It has nothing to do with god, or what's right and wrong. Just frickin own it for once.