GOP: Autism is god's wrath on America

[sandy whitelinger]

Next thing you know those wascally wapubplicans will vote in a Klansman to the Senate. Oh, my bad, that was the Dems.

 

[crossfire]

I wrote in my presidential vote.

Me too.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

There are odd-balls and wacko's on both side of the spectrum. Each spectrum needs a party to run on. To judge the mainstream of either side by the extremes is disingenuous. When it boils down to the average there seems to be little difference between the left and the right.

IMO there really isn't any difference. Both parties need to engage in outrageous fundraising to even run for office. Both parties support the Patriot Act. Both parties support an imperialist military budget of over 700 billion dollars per year, though the bulk of the money goes toward developing new weaponry and military aircraft while the troops themselves are mostly forced to go on food stamps. Both parties support lining the pockets of Big Pharmaceuticals, Big Agriculture, Big Oil, and Wall Street speculators and hedge fund managers rather than support our own infrastructure, bridges, subways, buses, railroads.

The differences are nothing more than spectacle. A bisexual woman like me who requires birth control pills to help her perimenopause, owns her business, has an autistic son, and homeschools her daughter, is screwed as much as 99.9% of the citizens.

 

[Alceste]

The youngsters will not vote GOP but they might not vote Democratic either.

They haven't really got any other options. If you split the "left of crazy" vote, the Republicans might win. That's what happened in Canada - one anti-science, anti-environment party of religious nuts ran against four moderate or progressive parties, and now look what we're stuck with. The Democratic base in the US probably won't split until the Republican base does. At least I hope not. If the GOP wins and starts a war in Iran, our fascist leaning PM will be the first in line to sign up.

 

[Alceste]

Wow, that's some kool-aid.

The results of the last two elections speak for themselves.

 

[LuisDantas]

Next thing you know those wascally wapubplicans will vote in a Klansman to the Senate. Oh, my bad, that was the Dems.

Who would that person be?

 

[LuisDantas]

Well, most of them were elected. Rush has the most popular radio show on the planet. Enough evidence? Now I'll generalize; why is it that commie-libs have to denigrate those who disagree with them; this thread as evidence.

Who are you talking with now?

 

[Revoltingest]

Who would that person be?

Robert Byrd (Dem senator) was not just a member of the Klan, but a
leader who was unanimously elected Exalted Cyclops of his chapter.
(Fancy titles they have, eh?)
His views later "evolved", but Dems don't bring this history up often.

 

[Reverend Rick]

I believe Democratic Govenor George Wallace was in the clan as well. Funny no GOP members elected to any high offices can say that.

It just goes to show the hypocrisy of the Democratic party thinking they should receive the minority vote.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

The youngsters will not vote GOP but they might not vote Democratic either.

Sure they'll vote Democrat. The past election cycles are evidence of that. We're not there talking about birth control and a women's libido, forceful sex from a husband isn't rape, banning abortion, not raising or abolishing the minimum wage altogether, repealing healthcare..etc...etc.....We're doing the exact opposite of your party. Always have. This is why the majority of the youth vote, single women vote, and minority vote has been moving toward a more progressive message. This is in fact where a vast majority of Americans are..

 

[Reverend Rick]

I was speaking of Millennials who are miffed by the ACA. Just wait till next year when their tax refund checks get fined and the future rates and penalties rise.

Enter the GOP who says they will abolish the ACA..... Think it through, we will get your income tax checks back for you. You can now work more hours again. Businesses can afford to give you some kind of healthcare for free once again.

At the very least, voter turn out will diminish or at best, they will vote some 3rd party on principal.

 

[Alceste]

I was speaking of Millennials who are miffed by the ACA. Just wait till next year when their tax refund checks get fined and the future rates and penalties rise.

Enter the GOP who says they will abolish the ACA..... Think it through, we will get your income tax checks back for you. You can now work more hours again. Businesses can afford to give you some kind of healthcare for free once again.

At the very least, voter turn out will diminish or at best, they will vote some 3rd party on principal.

I think you vastly overstate the possible consequences of the ACA. To the extent that it affects young healthy folks at all, it's to their benefit. They can stay on their parents' policies for longer, won't be denied coverage for trivial reasons or dropped for getting ill or injured, and they have a better chance of accessing federally funded programs than before. That last part is key, since both parties are whole-heartedly committed to throwing upcoming generations under the bus, economically speaking. If you're stuck competing with Mexicans and Indians for third world wages, at least you can have federally funded health care to look forward to.

 

[Alceste]

Further to the post above, what do you think young people - especially young women - care more about: the right to decide for themselves whether to become parents and when, or some minor fiddling with their tax returns?

 

[ChristineES]

I have a child with autism and I am a Christian. I think the GOP has lost their collective minds, well, some of them have, that's for certain.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

I was speaking of Millennials who are miffed by the ACA.

Most actually aren't miffed. They're bogged down in an onslaught of negative messaging from the "right"......But what many of them are finding is it isn't as bad as conservative make it out to be. Many of the young will be able to stay on their parents insurance until 26. Many of the 26 and above are either in college and or working and health insurance is one of the items on their list when seeking employment....especially if they have a child or children.

Just wait till next year when their tax refund checks get fined and the future rates and penalties rise.

Enter the GOP who says they will abolish the ACA.....

No one is paying them any attention on this because the alternative would be to go back to the system that didn't cover pre-existing conditions, had lifetime limits and caps and could charge
women more. The GOP, while screaming repeal..repeal..., is offering no alternative. Even Paul Ryan knows that much of the core structure of the ACA works because it's the same thing he's advocating doing to Medicare. It's the same thing the front runner on the ticket (Mitt Romney) advocated and passed for Massachusetts and said would be a model for the whole country.

Think it through, we will get your income tax checks back for you. You can now work more hours again. Businesses can afford to give you some kind of healthcare for free once again.

Oh please.....Where were the Republicans when the Payroll Tax law expired last year? They were dead silent and allowed the law to expire without a word. Both Dems and Pubs have a hand in that tax hike. This idea that your party cares so much about lower taxes is a myth and it's slight of hand. Lowering my federal taxes is not the whole picture when it comes to taxation. Households in both blue and red states deal on a day to day basis when it comes to sales tax on goods and toll hikes on highways when going to and coming from work. What I have seen is that many republicans in the Senate and House spout lower taxes...yet Governors have been raising state taxes...and I see these states doing this partly because they've lowered taxes in one area and to balance the books and pay for services have to raise taxes in other areas. I've seen them lower corporate taxes but raise sales tax on the people.

 

[Reverend Rick]

Most actually aren't miffed. They're bogged down in an onslaught of negative messaging from the "right"......But what many of them are finding is it isn't as bad as conservative make it out to be. Many of the young will be able to stay on their parents insurance until 26. Many of the 26 and above are either in college and or working and health insurance is one of the items on their list when seeking employment....especially if they have a child or children.



No one is paying them any attention on this because the alternative would be to go back to the system that didn't cover pre-existing conditions, had lifetime limits and caps and could charge
women more. The GOP, while screaming repeal..repeal..., is offering no alternative. Even Paul Ryan knows that much of the core structure of the ACA works because it's the same thing he's advocating doing to Medicare. It's the same thing the front runner on the ticket (Mitt Romney) advocated and passed for Massachusetts and said would be a model for the whole country.



Oh please.....Where were the Republicans when the Payroll Tax law expired last year? They were dead silent and allowed the law to expire without a word. Both Dems and Pubs have a hand in that tax hike. This idea that your party cares so much about lower taxes is a myth and it's slight of hand. Lowering my federal taxes is not the whole picture when it comes to taxation. Households in both blue and red states deal on a day to day basis when it comes to sales tax on goods and toll hikes on highways when going to and coming from work. What I have seen is that many republicans in the Senate and House spout lower taxes...yet Governors have been raising state taxes...and I see these states doing this partly because they've lowered taxes in one area and to balance the books and pay for services have to raise taxes in other areas. I've seen them lower corporate taxes but raise sales tax on the people.

No offense Alceste, but your neither American or a millenial. You have to admit the Democrats will never have the energy again like when they did when Obama first got elected.

 

[Alceste]

No offense Alceste, but your neither American or a millenial. You have to admit the Democrats will never have the energy again like when they did when Obama first got elected.

That's not me you're replying to.

But yes, those who actually hoped Obama might be a progressive were immediately disillusioned within days of his taking office, due to the fact he simply continued all of Bush's most unpopular policies. Even expanded on some of them, like domestic spying, foreign adventurism, the persecution of whistle blowers, the over-use of state secrecy, rendition and torture, letting corporations write their own laws, environmental inaction, yada yada. You know, the stuff progressives care about.

But that disappointment was over long before Obama won his second term. People knew exactly what they were getting - near total political inertia - and they STILL preferred that to the GOP. Mull that one over for a while.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

IMO there really isn't any difference. Both parties need to engage in outrageous fundraising to even run for office. Both parties support the Patriot Act. Both parties support an imperialist military budget of over 700 billion dollars per year, though the bulk of the money goes toward developing new weaponry and military aircraft while the troops themselves are mostly forced to go on food stamps. Both parties support lining the pockets of Big Pharmaceuticals, Big Agriculture, Big Oil, and Wall Street speculators and hedge fund managers rather than support our own infrastructure, bridges, subways, buses, railroads.

The differences are nothing more than spectacle. A bisexual woman like me who requires birth control pills to help her perimenopause, owns her business, has an autistic son, and homeschools her daughter, is screwed as much as 99.9% of the citizens.

Spot on. Try being a white middle-aged Christian business owner in New York. Governor Cuomo wan's neither me nor the Pope to live here.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Who would that person be?

Robert Byrd would be the most recent of a long list of Klansman from both parties including suspicions of two presidents. David Duke would be another of the more recent Klansman to be elected but he was a member of both parties.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Who are you talking with now?

You first sentence everyone else the second.