Groping: a male and female perspective

[MysticSang'ha]

At least I know she loves me!

Yup, she does

I do! I do!

I would love to see you in chat again soon!

(Now invoking sarcasm and humor) Our relationship might offend some people, however. Since you're Arab and I'm a woman, some folks might look at that as an interracial relationship that was never meant for human design.

 

[Debater Slayer]

You should not have done that. You should have called the police. You think that will not have a knock on effect. What did he do later when that started to bother him as he sobered up? Beat the hell out of his wife perhaps. It reminds me of a CTV on TV which had a young man and woman speaking; one could not tell what it was about, but in a flash, he hit her in the face, knocked her straight out. He (or she) who lives by the sword dies by the sword. You do things like that because you like the fact you are not scared anymore perhaps, but there is always, always, a knock on effect. And usually to someone innocent. Next time, do it the legal way. It would have had more effect.


EDIT:
but what gets me is at the bottom it says 'love you all', should there not be some clauses or sub-clauses to that??

Such a lecture to defend a sexual assaulter. One would think a reasonable person would focus on the crime of sexual assault, but you are apparently more concerned about how the poor assaulter was treated.

I for one am looking forward to the day when all sexual assaulters think twice before touching anyone for fear that they would get the crap beaten out of them. That would be fun to watch.

 

[Smart_Guy]

I do! I do!

I would love to see you in chat again soon!

(Now invoking sarcasm and humor) Our relationship might offend some people, however. Since you're Arab and I'm a woman, some folks might look at that as an interracial relationship that was never meant for human design.

Oh gosh, you're so sweat

Time zone is a hindrance unfortunately. The couple of times we chatted were like 3am in my time zone and I work like a machine in the slave driving private sector to be normally be awake around that time. I really miss you

(to further invoke sarcasm and humor ) I'd wrestle those people for you and kick their ***** (I hope I'm not the one to get my *** kicked)

And nope, I'd never grope a women. Even if I wanted to, I'll have my *** handed to me around here

 

[Nymphs]

And usually to someone innocent. Next time, do it the legal way. It would have had more effect.

He assaulted her, it was self-defense. Why would you think otherwise?

 

[Sunstone]

In reality, I tend to distinguish between "groping" and the welcome flirtatious touch. For example, I've been out and have had men and women coming up to me to my side, and slowly sliding their hand over the opposite hip. That move is assertive, but there's attention and care to how I might react, and ready to stop if I show I don't want to be touched.

On the other hand, "groping" is out of the blue, forceful, quick, and without any attention to how I might feel about it. It's as if a part of my body is part of a buffet, and they'll just walk up and grab it whenever and however they want. Like the story of the guy I punched in the face at the club, because he reached around on the dance floor without my knowledge and forcefully fingered my crotch. Or the guy in high school who reached his hand up my skirt in the middle of class (and I hit him across the face with a book).

There is a very real difference between the two.

That's an excellent distinction, Heather!

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Oh gosh, you're so sweat

Time zone is a hindrance unfortunately. The couple of times we chatted were like 3am in my time zone and I work like a machine in the slave driving private sector to be normally be awake around that time. I really miss you

(to further invoke sarcasm and humor ) I'd wrestle those people for you and kick their ***** (I hope I'm not the one to get my *** kicked)

And nope, I'd never grope a women. Even if I wanted to, I'll have my *** handed to me around here

He assaulted her, it was self-defense. Why would you think otherwise?

I wonder if the same advice were to be given to anyone trying to beat you up to steal your car...."Oh, whatever you do, don't punch them back. Since if you punch them out, they may go home and kick the innocent dog or beat up their spouse. So, just do the right thing and call the police."

That's an excellent distinction, Heather!

Thanks!

 

[Alceste]

I wonder if the same advice were to be given to anyone trying to beat you up to steal your car...."Oh, whatever you do, don't punch them back. Since if you punch them out, they may go home and kick the innocent dog or beat up their spouse. So, just do the right thing and call the police."



Thanks!

I kicked a man in the family jewels once. He had me tied up and gagged in a haunted house Halloween show thingy and was menacing me with a chain saw or something. He was drinking a lot and got carried away, went in for a beyond-the-boundaries grope and I kicked him in the fork. It's an automatic reaction, for me. It's not like I have ever taken the time to consider multiple possible courses of action. I think we all have a right to use extreme force if necessary to defend our physical boundaries. And a boundary defending kick in the fork is probably a life lesson not soon forgotten.

 

[Sunstone]

I kicked a man in the family jewels once. He had me tied up and gagged in a haunted house Halloween show thingy and was menacing me with a chain saw or something. He was drinking a lot and got carried away, went in for a beyond-the-boundaries grope and I kicked him in the fork. It's an automatic reaction, for me. It's not like I have ever taken the time to consider multiple possible courses of action. I think we all have a right to use extreme force if necessary to defend our physical boundaries. And a boundary defending kick in the fork is probably a life lesson not soon forgotten.

In the future, you should schedule an appointment with the police for them to intervene in such situations, Alceste.

 

[Alceste]

In the future, you should schedule an appointment with the police for them to intervene in such situations, Alceste.

Thanks for the sage advice, though the ambulance is usually much quicker. Maybe I'll go that route instead.

 

[Smart_Guy]

He assaulted her, it was self-defense. Why would you think otherwise?

I think he meant for her to try to protect her legal right. The police are sometimes irresponsible and drop charges for what they see uncertain, yet a punch on the face could leave a mark as an evidence that the police cannot deny so things might fire back negatively!

However, I don't disagree with you ma'am. if something had to be done at that time, then by all means, just a punch is not enough for that sick ay hole. We gotta do what we gotta do after all!

Yet I personally, if I see someone here touches a women, I would beat the hell out of him once I get the chance and without care. I'm sure other witnesses will join me in it!

I think we all have a right to use extreme force if necessary to defend our physical boundaries. And a boundary defending kick in the fork is probably a life lesson not soon forgotten.

Sorry about that bad experience

I completely agree with you there ma'am. If necessary and in a way good enough to stop it!

Did that kick hurt him? Just kidding :run:

 

[Thief]

So with a bit more direction.....a certain firm grip?

Since the intention that brings it....is personal.....
maybe some personal restraint is in order.

If the situation is personal and intimate....such practice is likely.

 

[Alceste]

I think he meant for her to try to protect her legal right. The police are sometimes irresponsible and drop charges for what they see uncertain, yet a punch on the face could leave a mark as an evidence that the police cannot deny so things might fire back negatively!

However, I don't disagree with you ma'am. if something had to be done at that time, then by all means, just a punch is not enough for that sick ay hole. We gotta do what we gotta do after all!

Yet I personally, if I see someone here touches a women, I would beat the hell out of him once I get the chance and without care. I'm sure other witnesses will join me in it!



Sorry about that bad experience

I completely agree with you there ma'am. If necessary and in a way good enough to stop it!

Did that kick hurt him? Just kidding :run:

To be clear, I don't advocate beating someone up after the fact, when there is no longer imminent danger. I only advocate defending our own physical boundaries with physical force, if necessary. After the fact, if any further action is required, I'd go with the police. Mob violence isn't common or acceptable in my culture, whatever the mob believes their victim has done.

 

[Smart_Guy]

To be clear, I don't advocate beating someone up after the fact, when there is no longer imminent danger. I only advocate defending our own physical boundaries with physical force, if necessary. After the fact, if any further action is required, I'd go with the police. Mob violence isn't common or acceptable in my culture, whatever the mob believes their victim has done.

I understand, ma'am!

That is what I meant by:

...If necessary and in a way good enough to stop it!

And mob violence is not common nor acceptable in my culture too, but unfortunately could happen sometimes as it could happen in the rest of the world!

 

[Robert.Evans]

Nah. He stopped. And I maintain it was an act of self-defense. He assaulted me.

I expect another "Poe" like response from you soon.

You don't discuss then, you ignore the other points.

What is 'poe'? Presumably something negative

 

[MysticSang'ha]

You don't discuss then, you ignore the other points.

What is 'poe'? Presumably something negative

And in other news, I have ten toes. Which is another point being obvious.

 

[Robert.Evans]

He assaulted her, it was self-defense. Why would you think otherwise?

Who said I did? But nice how you ignore the rest of what I said to take it completely out of context.

 

[Revoltingest]

What is 'poe'? Presumably something negative

Yes, very....
Poe's Law - RationalWiki

 

[Nymphs]

Who said I did? But nice how you ignore the rest of what I said to take it completely out of context.

I'm not taking anything out of context. You said that a woman who was assaulted should find the police in the immediate context.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Yes, very....
Poe's Law - RationalWiki

Part of it says:

Originally the law only made the claim that someone will mistake a parody of fundamentalism for the real thing — that if someone made a sarcastic comment stating that evolution was a hoax because "birds don't give birth to monkeys," then there was a high probability that at least one person would miss the joke and explain (in all seriousness) how the poster was an idiot.

So is it basically when someone cannot tell if you are joking/sarcastic or being sincere? (I was being sincere there)

Either way, it is offensive it seems

 

[Robert.Evans]

I'm not taking anything out of context. You said that a woman who was assaulted should find the police in the immediate context.

out of context and now reworded. Perhaps you think breaking the law is acceptable as some women here seem to think. They don't seem to care if they assault people, they don't seem to care if their actions effect others in negative ways, and they are one sided in their views.