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Guilty or Not Guilty - Teacher Education

Guilty or Not Guilty

  • Guilty?

    Votes: 3 42.9%
  • Not Guilty?

    Votes: 4 57.1%

  • Total voters
    7

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Oh, yes. I see. But since it is in general debates and not US politics, my answer is that culture. Some of things you would consider sexualizing children by a teacher would get a Danish teacher in trouble, if not done by the teacher.
General because it isn't politics? But OK with the rest.
 

Curious George

Veteran Member

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
The curriculum was developed by Unitarian Universalist Association and the United Church of Christ. Seems yet another reason to have churches removed from education, wouldn’t you agree?

Help with a supportive documentation... but if I use that analogy, if it were developed by a secular educationally based PhD, do I then remove all secular PhD's from education? Or just the material?
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Sexualizing children,

parents-outraged-oregon-teacher-asks-students-write-sexual-fantasy-short-story

Evidence, packed school board meetings with highly upset moms and dads. Didn't have that before.
Really? I saw that happen all the time. Still do
Granted that may be because I’m not American so I grew up on our news stations (also owned by Murdoch, by the way) pointing and laughing at US school board meetings freaking out over the slightest amount of sex or intimacy. Or magic, for some reason.
I believe the kids these days call such reactions “giga cringe.”

Every single instance I have read about where someone in America was beyond scandalised by a sex Ed component would have gotten them labelled beyond prude here. And it’s not like we’re overly permissive as a culture either. :shrug:

As to the linked story, I couldn’t find the age range of said students. Perhaps you could help me out there. I mean if they’re like 10 or 11, then I’d likely agree with you. Older than that? Ehh grey areas starting to coming into play.
Also writing about receiving love without sex is honestly something I probably wrote about in my English class from time to time, to be honest. And I live in a conservative State

Forgive me. But from the outside looking in, it seems like America is running backwards and it’s a little concerning
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
Sexualizing children,

parents-outraged-oregon-teacher-asks-students-write-sexual-fantasy-short-story

Evidence, packed school board meetings with highly upset moms and dads. Didn't have that before.
Some teachers seem all too willing to blur the generation gap between students and themselves. Sadly, we have pedophile adults getting into certain jobs just to be near kids, such as scouting, teaching, pastoring, etc. We need to do more background checks on these folks. Also, charter schools seem to have more freedom than public schools, so maybe charter schools attract strange people because they can be more "creative" (giant, blinking, red quotes) in the process.
 
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Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Or you could make a sweeping generalization that this is increasing or rampant based on anecdotal evidence of isolated incidents of questionable behavior.
packed school boards on these issues are not isolated.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Really? I saw that happen all the time. Still do
Granted that may be because I’m not American so I grew up on our news stations (also owned by Murdoch, by the way) pointing and laughing at US school board meetings freaking out over the slightest amount of sex or intimacy. Or magic, for some reason.
I believe the kids these days call such reactions “giga cringe.”

Every single instance I have read about where someone in America was beyond scandalised by a sex Ed component would have gotten them labelled beyond prude here. And it’s not like we’re overly permissive as a culture either. :shrug:

As to the linked story, I couldn’t find the age range of said students. Perhaps you could help me out there. I mean if they’re like 10 or 11, then I’d likely agree with you. Older than that? Ehh grey areas starting to coming into play.
Also writing about receiving love without sex is honestly something I probably wrote about in my English class from time to time, to be honest. And I live in a conservative State

Forgive me. But from the outside looking in, it seems like America is running backwards and it’s a little concerning
So this should be standard reading availability if it is Jr. High School? This isn't a Sex Ed issue is it? Grey areas for adult material?

I think it is a morality problem and it is emblematic to the decline thereof.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Some teachers seem all too willing to blur the generation gap between students and themselves. Sadly, we have pedophile adults getting into certain jobs just to be near kids, such as scouting, teaching, pastoring, etc. We need to do more background checks on these folks. Also, charter schools seem to have more freedom than public schools, so maybe charter schools attract strange people because they can be more "creative" (giant, blinking, red quotes) in the process.
Well said, IMV.
 

vulcanlogician

Well-Known Member
I do wonder why no one wants to vote on it. It is too committal?

I don't feel informed enough to vote. But given enough information, I would vote one way or the other.


I agree that the assignment is inappropriate, but I don't see it as evidence that the sexualization of children is increasing exponentially. I see the general trend over the last century is that children are more and more being protected from predatory adults. In the 1950s, a child might have felt too ashamed to tell anyone that they were being molested. These days we explain to kids what unwanted sexual contact is and we also have publically supported efforts to identify sexually abused children and help them out of their situation.

Do you think children in ancient times had such resources to escape their abusive situations? No! They didn't. They just had to put up with it, and NOBODY was going to help them out of it.

I agree that the assignment has no place in a proper curriculum, but I disagree that children are being sexualized "exponentially" more. If anything, the trend is moving in the other direction, and I pronounce it good. Education about sex is helping children who are victims all over the place. You gotta remember that too.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
So this should be standard reading availability if it is Jr. High School? This isn't a Sex Ed issue is it? Grey areas for adult material?

I think it is a morality problem and it is emblematic to the decline thereof.
What age is jr high?
Sorry not American
Yeah it is. Erotica tends to fall under the understanding of sex Ed. Since you know that kind of understanding does tend to kind of fall under the subject too??? Seriously how awful is US sex ed, anyway? Geez!!
Though I suppose depending on what classical literature you’re studying, it could go either way lol
I mean some of that stuff is literal hardcore porn
Ngl the Libertines go hard bro!!
Those jerks literally coined the term “sadism” in the English Language
Not even lying. Look up the bloke Marque De Sade!! ;)
By the way that movement was prominent in the 1700s.
Going to tell me that the moral decline was around that era as well?
Considering the Libertines were literal hardcore hedonists who rejected all morality and contributed to what we now consider classical art? Hmm
What moral decline. Amirite? Lol
Tell me you know nothing about actual historical art without telling me you know anything about historical art
 
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