Halloween, celebrating Satan's birthday?

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That is more than wildly inaccurate, Starsoul. For the record, I have never, in my 54 years on this backwater planet, heard of anyone doing divination, fortune telling or calling spirits up on Halloween.

For the first time in my 42 years,
I'm gunna do just that... tonight.

:witch:

 

[YmirGF]

For the first time in my 42 years,
I'm gunna do just that... tonight.

:witch:

No ritual sacrifices? You are such a rebel.

 

[Midnight Pete]

Satan was not born on Oct. 31. This is nonsense.

 

[McBell]

is that really so? what do people actually think of halloween and do people celebrate it so religiously just because its fun, and everybody's doing it?

the following narrative is taken from a source, I just wanted to know why people celebrate halloween, and if it really is a part of any organized religion or anything else, or even just a fun holiday, how do people celebrate something on such a vast scale without specifying its importance....The narrative is not in any way related to my personal views..Its an excerpt from a christian's article.


Celtic New Year

October 31 is the most important day in the satanic year. [It is known as the devil's birthday.] It marks the Celtic new year. It was the end of the growing season. It became a festival of death. On this day, the god of the Celtics was to have called up the spirits of the wicked dead who had died during the past year. At the same time, other evil spirits arose and went about the countryside harassing the people. On October 31, the Celtics expected to be harassed by ghosts, evil spirits and demons; and it was no fun and games to them. They would light bonfires to guide the spirits to their own town and to ward off evil spirits.
DRUIDS

The Celtics had priests called druids. On October 31, the druids went from house to house demanding certain foods, and all those who refused were cursed. The people were tormented by means of magic. As they went, the druids carried large turnips which they had hollowed out and on which they had carved demon faces as charms. Each one was believed to contain the demon spirit that personally led or guided that priest: his little god.
DIVINATION

Those who practiced fortune telling and divination found that this was the night that they had the most success. They called upon satan to bless their efforts. One form of divination was to put apples in a tub and bob for them. The one who first successfully came up with one without putting them in his teeth was to have good luck throughout the year. They would then peel the apples and throw the peeling over their shoulders and then quickly look around. They expected to see a vision or an apparition of the one they were to marry.
SACRIFICES

These things happened several centuries before CHRIST. Sacrifices were made to the gods, especially the god of death - Samhain (pronounced Sah win). Sacrifices all the way from vegetable to human were offered. This went on and on, and, in some parts of the world, still goes on today.
8th CENTURY

In the 8th century, the Pope, in an effort to get the people to quit the festival of Sam hain, invented All Saints Day (Nov. 1). This was an attempt to get the people to turn away from the horrible observance of Sam hain. All Saints Day was intended to honor the martyrs of the Roman persecutions. It did not work! It never works to Christianize a pagan holiday. The holy and the profane do not mix.
THE MIDDLE AGES

In the Middle Ages, there was a great revival of satanic practices and witchcraft and magic - like there is today. During this time the belief developed that witches traveled on broomsticks to the black Sabbaths to worship satan on October 31. They were guided by spirits in the form of black cats. The Druids worshiped cats believing them to be reincarnated evil people.
CHURCH INVOLVEMENT

This festival of death has survived all the efforts of the church to stamp it out. The church is joining the opposition by celebrating this festival.
All Saints Day became All Hallows Day. Hallow means holy or sacred. October 31 is the evening before All Hallows Day and came to be called in the western world all hallows evening and then all hallows een. Een is an abbreviation for evening. Finally, the word was reduced to the way we have it today, Halloween. That's where the name came from, and even if it is called all hallows evening, it has nothing to do with Christian faith, and it never did.
MODERN HALLOWEEN

Now let's look at the present day celebration of Halloween. Isn't the whole theme one of darkness, death, fear, threats, destruction and evil? There are witches, broomsticks, bats, owls, ghosts, skeletons, death, and monsters. You dress up your children as demons and witches and ghouls and monsters and werewolves and send them out into the street in the darkness to reenact the Druids' practice of demanding food from people under threat of tricks (or curses) if they don't comply.


You take, not a turnip, but a pumpkin and carve demon faces in it and decorate with it.


At Halloween there will be apple bobbing, divination, fortune telling, haunted houses, candles lit and spirits called up. There will be seances and ouija boards in the name of fun and excitement. There will be sacrifices of dogs, cats, rats, chickens, goats and even humans!
You say, "Well, we don't take it seriously." But the devil does and so does God. Particularly this is true when the Church which He purchased with His own precious blood builds houses of horror in its fellowship halls so that the little lambs who have been entrusted to its care can be terrified and opened up to invading spirits of fear and torment and confusion.

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Jack?
Jack Chick?
Is that you?

 

[Breathe]

Wait a sec... what's wrong with bobbing for apples?

 

[England my lionheart]

is that really so? what do people actually think of halloween and do people celebrate it so religiously just because its fun, and everybody's doing it?

Halloween is fun and has nothing to do with Satans birthday, all Hallows eve or all souls night has nothing to do with it either,Halloween is a commercial boomtime for Pumpkin growers,in Britain its the only time you see it at the Supermarket.

the following narrative is taken from a source, I just wanted to know why people celebrate halloween, and if it really is a part of any organized religion or anything else, or even just a fun holiday, how do people celebrate something on such a vast scale without specifying its importance....The narrative is not in any way related to my personal views..Its an excerpt from a christian's article.


Celtic New Year

October 31 is the most important day in the satanic year. [It is known as the devil's birthday.] It marks the Celtic new year. It was the end of the growing season. It became a festival of death. On this day, the god of the Celtics was to have called up the spirits of the wicked dead who had died during the past year. At the same time, other evil spirits arose and went about the countryside harassing the people. On October 31, the Celtics expected to be harassed by ghosts, evil spirits and demons; and it was no fun and games to them. They would light bonfires to guide the spirits to their own town and to ward off evil spirits.
DRUIDS

The only death that occured was the slaughter of the livestock that they could not feed through the Winter/Samhain and they were not called Celtics they were Celts.

The Celtics had priests called druids. On October 31, the druids went from house to house demanding certain foods, and all those who refused were cursed. The people were tormented by means of magic. As they went, the druids carried large turnips which they had hollowed out and on which they had carved demon faces as charms. Each one was believed to contain the demon spirit that personally led or guided that priest: his little god.
DIVINATION

Druids did not have a Gregorian calender and they were prettymuch wiped out by the Romans.

Those who practiced fortune telling and divination found that this was the night that they had the most success. They called upon satan to bless their efforts. One form of divination was to put apples in a tub and bob for them. The one who first successfully came up with one without putting them in his teeth was to have good luck throughout the year. They would then peel the apples and throw the peeling over their shoulders and then quickly look around. They expected to see a vision or an apparition of the one they were to marry.
SACRIFICES

Almost there with the Apple,you have topeel the Apple in one unbroken strip

These things happened several centuries before CHRIST. Sacrifices were made to the gods, especially the god of death - Samhain (pronounced Sah win). Sacrifices all the way from vegetable to human were offered. This went on and on, and, in some parts of the world, still goes on today.

I would like to see the sources for this
8th CENTURY

In the 8th century, the Pope, in an effort to get the people to quit the festival of Sam hain, invented All Saints Day (Nov. 1). This was an attempt to get the people to turn away from the horrible observance of Sam hain. All Saints Day was intended to honor the martyrs of the Roman persecutions. It did not work! It never works to Christianize a pagan holiday. The holy and the profane do not mix.

Baloney

THE MIDDLE AGES

In the Middle Ages, there was a great revival of satanic practices and witchcraft and magic - like there is today. During this time the belief developed that witches traveled on broomsticks to the black Sabbaths to worship satan on October 31. They were guided by spirits in the form of black cats. The Druids worshiped cats believing them to be reincarnated evil people.

Absolute Baloney,the Druids had vacated the building by the Middle ages

CHURCH INVOLVEMENT


This festival of death has survived all the efforts of the church to stamp it out. The church is joining the opposition by celebrating this festival.
All Saints Day became All Hallows Day. Hallow means holy or sacred. October 31 is the evening before All Hallows Day and came to be called in the western world all hallows evening and then all hallows een. Een is an abbreviation for evening. Finally, the word was reduced to the way we have it today, Halloween. That's where the name came from, and even if it is called all hallows evening, it has nothing to do with Christian faith, and it never did.


MODERN HALLOWEEN

Now let's look at the present day celebration of Halloween. Isn't the whole theme one of darkness, death, fear, threats, destruction and evil? There are witches, broomsticks, bats, owls, ghosts, skeletons, death, and monsters. You dress up your children as demons and witches and ghouls and monsters and werewolves and send them out into the street in the darkness to reenact the Druids' practice of demanding food from people under threat of tricks (or curses) if they don't comply.




You take, not a turnip, but a pumpkin and carve demon faces in it and decorate with it.


At Halloween there will be apple bobbing, divination, fortune telling, haunted houses, candles lit and spirits called up. There will be seances and ouija boards in the name of fun and excitement. There will be sacrifices of dogs, cats, rats, chickens, goats and even humans!
You say, "Well, we don't take it seriously." But the devil does and so does God. Particularly this is true when the Church which He purchased with His own precious blood builds houses of horror in its fellowship halls so that the little lambs who have been entrusted to its care can be terrified and opened up to invading spirits of fear and torment and confusion.

(Sourced )

An invasion of spirits,i do hope that its wild Turkey Whiskey

 

[Smoke]

You might wanna control your tongue---is it by any chance, you are trying trolling us Muslims here

Good grief.

It's certainly no odder to talk about Satan's parents than about his birthday. In fact, the idea that he has a birthday pretty much leads right into the idea that he must have had parents.

 

[YmirGF]

Good grief.

It's certainly no odder to talk about Satan's parents than about his birthday. In fact, the idea that he has a birthday pretty much leads right into the idea that he must have had parents.

Things that make you go, "Hmmmm. What's with that?"

 

[Midnight Pete]

Satan has one parent: God. And his "birthday" is the beginning of time.

But did the beginning of time fall on Oct. 31st?

 

[fantome profane]

Jack?
Jack Chick?
Is that you?

I had the same thought

[FONT=&quot]Boo![/FONT]

 

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Originally Posted by YmirGF

That is more than wildly inaccurate, Starsoul. For the record, I have never, in my 54 years on this backwater planet, heard of anyone doing divination, fortune telling or calling spirits up on Halloween.

For the first time in my 42 years,
I'm gunna do just that... tonight.

No ritual sacrifices? You are such a rebel.

Well as it turns out, I only managed to raise up two Spirits tonight.

A Smooth Merlot and a Sassy Black Cherry Liquor. :drunk:
Possession was never so Sweet. :flirt:

Divination by light of Black Candle will have to wait until tomorrow... or the day after...

That makes me EXTRA rebel. :yes:

:bkcat:

 

[Starsoul]

Good grief.

It's certainly no odder to talk about Satan's parents than about his birthday. In fact, the idea that he has a birthday pretty much leads right into the idea that he must have had parents.

Its ok >>A thousand suns>> you should've guessed where the insults on the forum are supposed to be taken seriously, when its only insulting to satan, not otherwise.

 

[tumbleweed41]

Good grief. The OP is utter nonsense.

1. Samahain translates to 'summers end'. It was a Harvest festival.
2. The Druids did not worship Satan. The concept of Satan was introduced by the Abrahamic religions much later.
3. What the hell is 'Satan's Birthday"?

 

[logician]

The church celebrate All Saints Day, not Halloween. Halloween isn't even found on the RC church's liturgical calendar....

And Satan's birthday? Since when did he celebrate his birthday? How old is he? Who are his guests aside from the demons?

For that matter when was the supposed Jesus' birthday? I don't think this info is necessary to worship something.

 

[Renji]

For that matter when was the supposed Jesus' birthday?

Well I don't know either. Do you? All saints day and Christmas are celebrated "supposedly" to "christianize" pagan celebrations.

I don't think this info is necessary to worship something.

LOL! Of course they're not. I was just kidding. If you're going to take them seriously, then you're nuts!:angel2:

 

[Thesavorofpan]

Wait a sec... what's wrong with bobbing for apples?

It's very awkward. Lets just leave it at that. *bad memories seeping up*

 

[St Giordano Bruno]

Halloween, celebrating Satan's birthday! who was the party pooper that made that up?

 

[BruceDLimber]

The subject line is PURE NONSENSE, completely ignoring the fact that All Hallows (aka All Saints' Day) is a CHRISTIAN observance! "Halloween" simply means "the eve ('e'en') of All Hallows; and given that the Christian day begins at sunset like that of all the other Abrahamic religions (Jewish, Muslim, Babi, and Baha'i), it's simply the beginning of the 24 hours devoted to honoring the dead ("saints" also applying to the living who are godly)!

Not to mention which, God is One, Supreme, and has no rival or equal! "Satan" merely refers to our own lower (animal) nature when we give it control instead of our higher (spiritual) nature.

Peace,

Bruce

 

[Midnight Pete]

Its funny how athiests would relate anything to Allah as if it gave them some kind of power or satisfaction to refer insults to Him, why bother mentioning Him when you don't even believe He exists, oh but wait, He only exists as an excuse for you to insult anyone who believes in Him, the rest you'd probably wont ever bother about!

This is true! This is so true!

 

[Midnight Pete]

Halloween, celebrating Satan's birthday! who was the party pooper that made that up?

Satan did not have a birthday. Originally created as Lucifer, he dates back to the beginning of time. Angels don't have birthdays because they were never born.

As a troll, you succeed in causing annoyance.