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Harris is so out of touch.....

Suave

Simulated character
I know this is your mantra. But it's no more reasonable
than the claims that Democrats want no voting security
so that illegal aliens can vote.
You guys...throwing bricks at each other, but no attempt
to understand each other.

I would consider a mail-in ballot containing the voter's driver license's number, or last four digits of his or her social security number as sufficient proof of the voter's identity. I fail to understand why the voter's facial image would then still be necessary.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
But let's get real, and that is that this Republican Party is hell-bent on the voter suppression of minorities and younger Americans. Imagine if Obama had tried to suppress the rural vote by making it more difficult for them to vote. Imagine if Obama had encouraged and insurrection of the Capitol. Imagine if those who conducted that insurrection were predominantly Black.

Anyone who praises Trump and condemns Harris-- well, one can finish my sentence from there. :rolleyes:
How are they exactly going about that?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I would consider a mail-in ballot containing the voter's driver license's number, or last four digits of his or her social security number as sufficient proof of the voter's identity. I fail to understand why the voter's facial image would then still be necessary.
I can't speak to the details of security.
Only that the 2 sides should reach some reasonable agreement.
Alas, political hay can be made by fighting over it.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I'd consider the Republicans thinking almost anybody can easily afford a laptop, printer, and ink cartridge in order to simply print out a copy of his identification card are the ones who are out of touch with rural America.
Who said anything about owning when most rural folks amble into town at some points to stock up and have a couple of brewskis. It's not like a rural town only has telegraphs or something to communicate with the mainland.

I do recall some might just have a copier and a mail service of sorts, or at least a pony that a kid can ride to the nearest metropolis. But that's just rumors I guess.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
From the linked article, she refers to a possible lack of available means; she makes no reference to intelligence.
Well I would think intelligent people would think of a possible way.......

I figure if you have a lack of available means as a situation, I would say your immediate problems are far worse than trying to vote for someone hundreds and thousands of miles away.
 

Suave

Simulated character
Who said anything about owning when most rural folks amble into town at some points to stock up and have a couple of brewskis. It's not like a rural town only has telegraphs or something to communicate with the mainland.

I do recall some might just have a copier and a mail service of sorts, or at least a pony that a kid can ride to the nearest metropolis. But that's just rumors I guess.

Please let us consider ways to make voting easier for country folk not having to take a long trek to town. As for voting by mail integrity concerns, perhaps we can agree a voter's driver's license number or last four of his/her social security number rather than the hassle of a voter submitting a copy of his/her photo identification should suffice in proving a mail-in voter's proof of identification
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
Kamala Harris slammed for "insulting" claim rural communities can't photocopy IDs

She really has no clue. Does she? Does she think all rural folks are brainless hicks who cannot think or find a way to photocopy material?

One more example on how badly out of touch and ignorant she is about rural America.

Plus it's no wonder that rural America has such a low opinion on politics now.
I love this comment:
"Hi, I live on top of a mountain on the WV/VA border and I can photocopy my ID. I mean I do it while moonshining White Lightning while dueling banjos play in the background but I can still do it."

I get a little irate when people assume hicks are stupid. For overall common Sense I'll take them over Urban people any day.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Well, one fact that should be considered -- more than half of all Americans are living paycheck-to-paycheck, and I suspect that when that is the case, sometimes it may be wise not to spend on things that are truly not necessities. After all, it's probably nice to have a printer, but even better to have a few dollars set by in case of emergency.
 

Suave

Simulated character

I voted for Biden as the lesser of two evils between a corporate sellout and an orangutan like idiot such as Trump. I honestly voted for the Biden/Harris ticket hoping Kamala Harris would soon take over as being P.O.T.U.S.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Kamala Harris slammed for "insulting" claim rural communities can't photocopy IDs

She really has no clue. Does she? Does she think all rural folks are brainless hicks who cannot think or find a way to photocopy material?

One more example on how badly out of touch and ignorant she is about rural America.

Plus it's no wonder that rural America has such a low opinion on politics now.

Kinda funny hearing someone complain about politicians that are out of touch with reality who spent years defending the Orange Clown. Is it any wonder so many people consider Trump supporters to be complete hypocrites?
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Since they get to be in charge of us, they should be better.
But I don't expect that.

Someone once said that he thought a tiny minority of Congresspeople had the right motivation for being in office. He did not say anything about the combination of motivation and wisdom.

I've not seen anything that causes me to doubt his assertion.

I'm just glad when we're discussing bad and not worse because some are making statements that are totally gaslighting lies and clearly calling for illegal and immoral acts.
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
I know this is your mantra. But it's no more reasonable
than the claims that Democrats want no voting security
so that illegal aliens can vote.
You guys...throwing bricks at each other, but no attempt
to understand each other.
Nah, there is no bothsiderism here. Some Republicans have come right out and said that the purpose behind the voter ID laws and such is to suppress Democrat votes. Heck, even in the recent SCOTUS case regarding Arizona's laws, the GOP attorney said outright that the intent of the laws was partisan. Plus, in Georgia during the debates over their voter suppression bill, an amendment was offered that would have provided free voter ID's to every registered voter. Republicans voted it down. Further, what "security issues" are addressed by eliminating or reducing early voting? What's the security related difference between a voter voting in-person on Saturday and them doing so on Tuesday?

Sorry bud, but your bothsiderism doesn't apply here.
 
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Jose Fly

Fisker of men
So here's what Harris said:

"Because in some people's mind, that means well, you're going to have to Xerox or photocopy your ID to send it in to prove you are who you are. Well, there are a whole lot of people, especially people who live in rural communities, who don't... there's no Kinkos, there's no OfficeMax near them."

That's entirely correct. How many of you have ever lived in rural Appalachia? A lot of folks living there don't even have basic things like indoor bathrooms and running water (including some of my relatives). Many have to choose each month between food or medication.

So why not just provide a free voter ID for every registered voter in the country?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
As for voting by mail integrity concerns, perhaps we can agree a voter's driver's license number or last four of his/her social security number rather than the hassle of a voter submitting a copy of his/her photo identification should suffice in proving a mail-in voter's proof of identification
Trump & his base only have accused states with "fraud" that Biden won, thus exempting states that Trump won. On top of that, even in states that Biden won, these same Pubs say there was fraud with the top of the ticket but not further down the ticket whereas Republicans won. Are they demanding an audit with them? Nada.

Ya, I think we well know where the "fraud" really lies.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I love this comment:
"Hi, I live on top of a mountain on the WV/VA border and I can photocopy my ID. I mean I do it while moonshining White Lightning while dueling banjos play in the background but I can still do it."

I get a little irate when people assume hicks are stupid. For overall common Sense I'll take them over Urban people any day.
Its my favorite response so far from the people Harris thinks are essentially crippled and hobbled from access to the nearest photocopier.

At any rate , I'm sure rural America knows the people they won't vote for.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Kinda funny hearing someone complain about politicians that are out of touch with reality who spent years defending the Orange Clown. Is it any wonder so many people consider Trump supporters to be complete hypocrites?
Trump was my stick of dynamite. Turns out there was a bonus of napalm at no extra cost.
 
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