Flankerl
Well-Known Member
Around the end of the year i always get "frohe weihnachten/merry christmas" from the germans... never a "frohes chanukka/happy chanukka".
I think they are persecuting me. :yes:
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Hatred of Christianity!
- Thread starter Walkntune
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Around the end of the year i always get "frohe weihnachten/merry christmas" from the germans... never a "frohes chanukka/happy chanukka".
I think they are persecuting me. :yes:
Walkntune
Well-Known Member
I don't see where I put (me) in there but I guess somehow you didn't grasp the meaning?
I think one of the problems lies in the fact that some people inadvertently attack all of Christianity, including it's followers (or at least it seems that way) when saying the things they dislike about it. I believe that people are basically kind, but sometimes they make blanket statements when they dislike a certain thing about the Christian religion or any religion, for that matter.
The thing is that Christianity doesn't do anything on it's own, certain people who call themselves religious,do bad things in the name of their religion and all of that religion gets blamed and not just the ones who actually did the act.
I think it may be better served if we take labels off people before we judge them when they do something that is good or evil. Because it is individuals who do these things, not the religion, or whatever else, that makes them do things.
The thing is that Christianity doesn't do anything on it's own, certain people who call themselves religious,do bad things in the name of their religion and all of that religion gets blamed and not just the ones who actually did the act.
I think it may be better served if we take labels off people before we judge them when they do something that is good or evil. Because it is individuals who do these things, not the religion, or whatever else, that makes them do things.
Walkntune
Well-Known Member
I don't disagree that science has been very beneficial .Where did I say it was all bad? Its the human heart that manipulates and the point of this post which seems to be self revealing.
You really know how to nail down the inessential fact.
Walkntune
Well-Known Member
Actually its the accusations and hatred of the human heart that wants to justify that is the essential fact!
Sylvan
Unrepentant goofer duster
This is not a hypothetical question. The attitude about nuclear war in the Reagan administration for instance.. some publicly admitted that they believed they were living out an end time scenario. So if we got in a nuclear war.. oopsie I guess it was god's will and we're all going to heaven.. it was going to happen anyways it says so in revelations... hallelujah! Many of these people are still in positions of power in our government today, and certainly were key mentors to the current religious right regime. Every well-meaning, temperate, respectful, intelligent Christian who isn't actively trying to root this thing out of their own churches and communities is enabling this kind of insanity by association. "Science" doesn't motivate any behavior other than experimentation. Nuclear weapons were going to be discovered, one way or the other, and I think it a sign of great divine benevolence that more of them haven't been used. There may be some hope for us yet.
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Photonic
Ad astra!
I'm sorry. I'm just sick of people pining over "how bad science is."
These people have absolutely no notion of just how much they have benefited from science. A good majority of them would not be alive otherwise.
JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
Try to be more modest.
I never said the people themselves are Satan, or evil. Just influenced.
Christ told us we would suffer. And Satan has led you to attack with insults. He is the master of Hatred. In which you may or may not indulge yourself with when it comes to Christians and Christianity.
You needn't worry. I am very religious yet I also love science. And there are many more of us.
Looncall
Well-Known Member
The human heart only pumps blood. Why do you persist in spreading ancient errors?
Photonic
Ad astra!
Sorry person. I control who I am. If I decide to insult a religion, it's because I decided I would do it, not some supernatural force controlling my thoughts.
Photonic
Ad astra!
You needn't worry. I am very religious yet I also love science. And there are many more of us.
Interesting that you mention that, there is a statistic floating around out there (probably on wikipedia) that scientists are the most trusted of all groups. 90% as opposed to congress (17%)
Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
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IsmailaGodHasHeard
Well-Known Member
There is nothing wrong with Christians sharing their religion with people.
Makes sense. Anything a scientist would talk officially about would be supported by evidence and lots of research. I always enjoy listening to, for example, Michio Kaku.
fallingblood
Agnostic Theist
I think in part it is based out of ignorance. This is the same reason why people hate science, any other religion, or really any idea that is not theirs (I am generalizing here).
Some people have a tendency to look at the evil that has been committed in the name of an idea or by those people of an idea. We see it in this thread as well, by people naming off things such as the Crusades. The problem is that people don't sit down and try to figure out what the real reason for these issues were. And then they ignore the good that has been done in the name of the religion.
By focusing on just the extremes really is not a logical thing to do. We could do that with science as well. We could look at the studies of eugenics and see what came of that. However, it is distasteful and simply asinine.
Basically, it boils down to a lack of toleration.
*As a note, I am in no way saying that we should ignore the evils that have been committed in this world. That would be senseless. However, I propose to actually study those evils, see the various factors that played a role, and then try to actually understand them instead of making baseless assumptions motivated by hate.
Some people have a tendency to look at the evil that has been committed in the name of an idea or by those people of an idea. We see it in this thread as well, by people naming off things such as the Crusades. The problem is that people don't sit down and try to figure out what the real reason for these issues were. And then they ignore the good that has been done in the name of the religion.
By focusing on just the extremes really is not a logical thing to do. We could do that with science as well. We could look at the studies of eugenics and see what came of that. However, it is distasteful and simply asinine.
Basically, it boils down to a lack of toleration.
*As a note, I am in no way saying that we should ignore the evils that have been committed in this world. That would be senseless. However, I propose to actually study those evils, see the various factors that played a role, and then try to actually understand them instead of making baseless assumptions motivated by hate.