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Have I been unfair to God?

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Father said. Mother father DNA biological first parents are deceased.

As scientific human intelligence advice.

All human man's advice since a brother sister are equal as a baby. You are hence not allowed to thesis father mother as any references.

Brother and sister only. Terms do not in any condition own term past use as a mother father as a reference.

Reasoned correctly your sexual partnered brother sister becomes a mother father is yours exact inheritance. As humans.

Biological human truth owner.

You grow to be a brother or sister said father as my brother adult advice. To own living life.

Biology equals biology lives father mother term adult man body only adult woman body only.

We all began as babies only in life beginnings.

Hence human law removed it's science brothers King queen status religious science status and hierarchy statements from social law.

The human baby law edict all babies holy. Equal.

Why social law was correct unless rich liars buy their edicts. Judges.

Is the exact biological human position today.... to not thesis about self as you live owning the conditions. Baby becomes adult becomes a Parent.

Hierarchy from baby human.

Mother father equals yourself brother sister.

Brother sister first. Why no mother father quotes can be used. Proving the bible is a book notated a self human contradiction was shut.

Meant to be ignored actually said new human social laws for humans continuance of life on earth.

No argument existed. Science referencing biology owned instant verdict criminal human behaviour.

To be spiritual whilst living as a human were social conditions.

All preaching was stated false preaching.

You can belong to organisations singing music worship of life or nature. But not preach.

If you believe you have a spirit when you died it wasn't science. It is personal only.

If you can't care about life holiness whilst you live you qualified by behaviour choice if you were criminally dangerous to life living by intent.

As life was stated holy first.

Holy dusts don't change. Holy heavens spirit don't change. Holy earth body don't change. Owned a holy life.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Father said. Mother father DNA biological first parents are deceased.

As scientific human intelligence advice.

All human man's advice since a brother sister are equal as a baby. You are hence not allowed to thesis father mother as any references.

Brother and sister only. Terms do not in any condition own term past use as a mother father as a reference.

Reasoned correctly your sexual partnered brother sister becomes a mother father is yours exact inheritance. As humans.

Biological human truth owner.

You grow to be a brother or sister said father as my brother adult advice. To own living life.

Biology equals biology lives father mother term adult man body only adult woman body only.

We all began as babies only in life beginnings.

Hence human law removed it's science brothers King queen status religious science status and hierarchy statements from social law.

The human baby law edict all babies holy. Equal.

Why social law was correct unless rich liars buy their edicts. Judges.

Is the exact biological human position today.... to not thesis about self as you live owning the conditions. Baby becomes adult becomes a Parent.

Hierarchy from baby human.

Mother father equals yourself brother sister.

Brother sister first. Why no mother father quotes can be used. Proving the bible is a book notated a self human contradiction was shut.

Meant to be ignored actually said new human social laws for humans continuance of life on earth.

No argument existed. Science referencing biology owned instant verdict criminal human behaviour.

To be spiritual whilst living as a human were social conditions.

All preaching was stated false preaching.

You can belong to organisations singing music worship of life or nature. But not preach.

If you believe you have a spirit when you died it wasn't science. It is personal only.

If you can't care about life holiness whilst you live you qualified by behaviour choice if you were criminally dangerous to life living by intent.

As life was stated holy first.

Holy dusts don't change. Holy heavens spirit don't change. Holy earth body don't change. Owned a holy life.
Now to day if you are interfered with by conscious time shifting it's biology into life sacrifice.

You would be told holy life owns holy dust.

Maybe you thought you were the holy dust.

As it made no sense that nuclear gases began human baby life when two living biological humans by sex had

It only determines how interfered with a thinking mind is. To not consciously use its correct human biological advice
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
I try to thank and praise God for everything good in my life! I jumped off a three story building, and I can still walk! I thank God every day for that grace to walk, because being confined to a wheel chair is hell!

Ten weeks in a wheel chair was more miserable than I thought it would be. Some have it for life. I woke up with tubes coming out of my throat and couldn't talk, couldn't pee with a full bladder until they surgically removed the scar tissue blocking the urethra, leading to urination of blood clots larger than marbles (total agony), fed through a tube going into my stomach for a while!

But still, all thanks and praise to God, I could have been in a wheelchair the rest of my life like my best friend in high school, who had an injury and became a quad, where he couldn't move anything below his neck!

I thank God every day I haven't been a victim of rape from a male (but lots of other types of abuse and repeated beatings and stabbings however).


I thank God I haven't been bombed or buried under rubble in an earthquake!

Praise God I have received many signs and coincidences that to me were obviously a sign from the other side , and more than coincidence!

But still, almost 35, never had a relationship with a female that was healthy, and the one that I loved more than all others combined , with many signs she was a person of Divine Providence, and still my true love, turned into a total nightmare worse than death. So, I will likely never have a happy marriage!

Every job has been a total disaster!

I live in the ghetto in total poverty and have a stalker who actually shows up at my place and has swung on me before and stolen from me. I invited him into my apartment once and he started masturbating, (so I don't allow homeless people into my apartment anymore unless they are female or have a girlfriend with them.)

I have also been violently mugged (it caused my arm to come out of socket one of the 5 times that happened).

But I live in total poverty by American standards, will likely never pay the fines to get my license back! Every job I have had was a miserable disaster! School is possible with the exception of mathematics, physics, and certain forms of science I guess, but with my criminal history and mental illness factors, not sure if I could be the history/religion/philosophy professor or mental health worker I'd like to be!

So, life simply has been a nightmare, and probably always will be. I can't make it a year without a mental institution or trip to jail it seems! And I pray every day for grace to do so, but stuff keeps happening, that all the effort in the world isn't working!

God simply doesn't show himself to be love! I am not seeing evidence of this at all! I believe God wants all this misery and drama!

Is being a Father who watches children get cancer, be born missing limbs, be born with HIV or raped by HIV positive people, or watching children tortured to death, trafficked to be raped by 20 people a day as someone makes money off it, and offer no help, what a loving Father would do??

Is leaving women so impoverished in so many countries they must resort to prostitution, something a loving Father would do?

Is leaving the world in agony, letting people be burned from head to toe in fiery car crashes, taken to burn units, their scabs scrubbed, and all that painful stuff done to burn victims, and remain silent, offer people so little comfort, the loving thing to do?

Is remaining silent, refusing to speak clear messages to people, leaving people blind and confused, like you aren't there, like you don't care about them, the loving thing to do?

Is letting your chosen people, six million of them be killed in very terrifying painful ways like the Holocaust, or any body die in genocide, the loving thing to do? Is letting so many children become orphaned , or letting so many parents lose their children, and not let them stay in touch from Heaven to earth, the loving thing to do?


I see a God who could ease the world's misery and suffering in countless ways and end confusion, but he insists that confusion and misery is better, because that is what he chooses and insists on! He could give us good just leaders and refuses!

But praise God! He has in many ways been more kind to me than the average person. I give thanks where I see it due! Maybe there is great reward for those whose lives were nothing but pain on earth?

Have I been unfair to God?
We all are at times. I whine a lot and I've had a much easier life than yours, by the sounds of it.. I'm pretty sure God can handle our whining. In fact I seem to recall the prophets doing a lot of whining and sometimes God would respond to it whether positive or negatively.
The only thing that you should not do is curse God or quit talking to him.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
We all are at times. I whine a lot and I've had a much easier life than yours, by the sounds of it.. I'm pretty sure God can handle our whining. In fact I seem to recall the prophets doing a lot of whining and sometimes God would respond to it whether positive or negatively.
The only thing that you should not do is curse God or quit talking to him.
Thank you. Good post! :)

The Psalmist whines too. Even Jesus said "Father, why have you forsaken (abandoned) me!" ;)
 

Bree

Active Member

Have I been unfair to God?

Yes luv, i believe you have.

You blame him for all our woes.

But you must realise that mankind chose to be independent from God. Independence from Gods loving care and his loving laws has led mankind into a world of strife, hatred and misery. If he fixed every problem before it happened, perhaps mankind would feel justified in separating themselves from Gods care and laws.

What God allows, he only allows in the hope that we come to see we need him in our lives. When you come to realise that, you adopt his laws, obey his commands and he takes you under his wing and protects you from many of the woes of this world.

He has shown what life can be like when people obey him. He proved himself with Israel when he was their God. Deuteronomy 7:5 And now if YOU will strictly obey*+ my voice and will indeed keep my covenant,+ then YOU will certainly become* my special property out of all [other] peoples,+ because the whole earth belongs to me

Isaiah 41:10 Do not be afraid, for I am with you.+ Do not be anxious, for I am your God.+
I will fortify you, yes, I will help you,+ I will really hold on to you with my right hand of righteousness.’


Israel prospered and were protected when they stayed close to God. But when they went their own way, they lost favor and were taken over by the nations because God removed his protection from them. Its the same for us today...if we don't live according to Gods word/standards/rules he leaves us to our own devices. But if we adopt his ways, he takes special interest in us and draws us close to him.
 
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Spiderman

Veteran Member
Yes luv, i believe you have.

You blame him for all our woes.

But you must realise that mankind chose to be independent from God. Independence from Gods loving care nad his loving laws has led mankind into a world of strife, hatred and misery. If he fixed every problem before it happened, perhaps mankind would feel justified in separating themselves from Gods care and laws.

What God allows, he only allows in the hope that we come to see we need him in our lives. When you come to realise that, you adopt his laws, obey his commands and he takes you under his wing and protects you from many of the woes of this world.
It wouldn't be that hard for him to give me some instructions. More than anything I want to do the will of god. I have had terrible things happen to me, believing that I was doing God's Will and listening to the holy spirit! He wouldn't hurt anybody if he would start speaking up!
 

Bree

Active Member
It wouldn't be that hard for him to give me some instructions. More than anything I want to do the will of god. I have had terrible things happen to me, believing that I was doing God's Will and listening to the holy spirit! He wouldn't hurt anybody if he would start speaking up!

If you want to mediated on something today, think about this

All Scripture is inspired of God+ and beneficial for teaching,+ for reproving, for setting things straight,* for disciplining in righteousness,+ 17 so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.

Dont' question it, just spend some time considering it and ask God for direction. But really mediated on this verse because it just might open a door for you. It was written by the a Jewish man ;)
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
It wouldn't be that hard for him to give me some instructions. More than anything I want to do the will of god. I have had terrible things happen to me, believing that I was doing God's Will and listening to the holy spirit! He wouldn't hurt anybody if he would start speaking up!

Personally, I don't worry about the 'will of God' anymore since I disavowed my Christian faith. No offense to you, but worrying about God's will for our lives seems like such a worthless task to me. Was it the 'will of God' that I suffered abuse for 13 1/2 years because God couldn't be bothered to intervene and save me from the abuse? You know why I have such a deep disdain for God.

Furthermore, was it God's will for 2,996 people to be killed on 9-11 and was it God's will for 6 million Jews to be murdered in cold blood by the Nazis? Is it God's will that innocent children are raped, sexually molested and murdered? Is it God's will that children are born with birth defects? If the Bible is true, then it was God's will when he ordered the Israelites to wipe the Amalekites off the face of the Earth (Deuteronomy 25:17; Exodus 17:8–13; 1 Samuel 15:2-3). God ordered the Israelites to kill every man, woman, child, infant, and all their animals. If the Bible is true, then it was God's will when he committed worldwide genocide with a global flood.
 
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Spiderman

Veteran Member
Personally, I don't worry about the 'will of God' anymore since I disavowed my Christian faith. No offense to you, but worrying about God's will for our lives seems like such a worthless task to me. Was it the 'will of God' that I suffered abuse for 13 1/2 years because God couldn't be bothered to intervene and save me from the abuse? You know why I have such a deep disdain for God.

Was it God's will when 2,996 people were killed on September 11th and was it God's will when six million Jews were murdered by the Nazis during the Holocaust? Is it God's will that innocent children are raped, sexually molested and murdered? Is it God's will that children are born with birth defects? It was certainly God's will when he ordered the Israelites to wipe the Amalekites off the face of the Earth (Deuteronomy 25:17; Exodus 17:8–13; 1 Samuel 15:2-3). God ordered the Israelites to kill every man, woman, child, infant, and all their animals. It was also God's will when he committed worldwide genocide with a global flood. Like I said before, that's not a loving and merciful God.
Im certainly not interested in doing certain forms of God's will that involve pain and suffering.

But God acts crazy and does the opposite too , he acts like two different people, some times in Scripture, he does things like heal people , and command deeds of charity, hospitality, feeding the hungry, caring for the poor and sick, forgiving and loving enemies. I want those virtues!

I would be very interested in that, and to a certain extent have done that, but help from an omnipotent God could empower, enlighten, and equip me to do far FAR more!

Yet God refuses!

Help from God and I could fight evil in the world, abuse, oppression, and injustice, but God insists on leaving me quite unable to do much. :(
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Thank you for your thoughtful and compassionate offer, my friend. You are very kind. I would absolutely love to meet The Beatles sometime in the afterlife. I'd love to meet Ringo and Paul on this side of eternity, but my chances aren't good. I am going to go see Ringo in concert in about four months, but I won't have the opportunity to meet him. He's not greeting fans any more because of Covid. Honestly, I'm relieved that he and Paul are taking precautions that will help protect them from contracting the virus. Ringo is 81, and Paul is 79. I want them to stay alive as long as it's possible. The Beatles will always hold a special place in my heart. I would listen to their music when I was a teenager, and it provided a comforting refuge for me in the midst of the living hell I was trapped in while growing up. It may sound odd, but I'm emotionally attached to The Beatles because they were always there for me.
I didn't know any Beatles former members were in their eighties. Are Ringo and Paul friends? Do you agree with Paul's campaign to recruit people to be vegetarian?

I'm not a vegetarian, but it was a video by Paul that made me cut way back on meat, and I won't even buy a steak or just straight meat (with the exception of jerky on very rare occasions) after watching it, to not contribute more to a store's demand for meat, and delight myself in the agonizing lifetime some animal went through at a slaughter house, barely able to move around in crowded , smelly captivity, and tortured by humans.

What little meat I buy is basically all confined to a few chunks in a casserole or something or very rarely spicy jerky!

After watching Paul's video, after that and some one talks about buying two big steaks or pork chops , and having that for a meal, I'm like "Meh!"

I'd rather contribute to as little of the demand for meat as possible, and don't feel comfortable delighting my taste buds with some animal that was crammed in some crowded slaughter house, in captivity and misery all of it's life, then violently executed! :(
 
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Spiderman

Veteran Member
If you want to mediated on something today, think about this

All Scripture is inspired of God+ and beneficial for teaching,+ for reproving, for setting things straight,* for disciplining in righteousness,+ 17 so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.

Dont' question it, just spend some time considering it and ask God for direction. But really mediated on this verse because it just might open a door for you. It was written by the a Jewish man ;)
Scripture is filled with contradictions, and the first Christians were not Bible Christians. If the Bible is true, I should be filled with the holy spirit by now! I pray to God a lot every day. He should be guiding me, not some violent, outdated book, full of contradictions that go against my conscience!:mad:
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
If life is a nightmare, that is NOT a gift! That is a sadistic cruel curse, not a blessing!

Im just grateful I haven’t wasted my life. Had I done that it would be better I weren’t born. If we are born in a bad situation, this world is not the end.


Sorrow not if, in these days and on this earthly plane, things contrary to your wishes have been ordained and manifested by God, for days of blissful joy, of heavenly delight, are assuredly in store for you. Worlds, holy and spiritually glorious, will be unveiled to your eyes. You are destined by Him, in this world and hereafter, to partake of their benefits, to share in their joys, and to obtain a portion of their sustaining grace. To each and every one of them you will, no doubt, attain.

Bahá’u’lláh
 

Bree

Active Member
Scripture is filled with contradictions, and the first Christians were not Bible Christians. If the Bible is true, I should be filled with the holy spirit by now! I pray to God a lot every day. He should be guiding me, not some violent, outdated book, full of contradictions that go against my conscience!:mad:

contradictions only exist when someone teaches falsehood.

God Word does not teach falsehood. People do.
 

BigBill88

Member
I think you just have expectations of God and your angry he won't act the way you want him to. Show any history where God has done what you want him to do - he doesn't do what you want him to do plain and simple. These thought come from believing God guilds every persons steps and decides all things for the person bring both evil and good. If your on the bad side of town at a party and got shot God didn't make you go you choose to go there but if blaming God makes a person feel better.
The sun shines and the rain pours in everyone's life hard times are how a person builds character and overcomes or folds - I have heard it called spiritual growth can't happen if everything is sunshine and lolly pops. Heaven is in the next life not this one. Everything is learned from mistakes and the Character in how you handle it will shows who you are.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I think you just have expectations of God and your angry he won't act the way you want him to. Show any history where God has done what you want him to do - he doesn't do what you want him to do plain and simple. These thought come from believing God guilds every persons steps and decides all things for the person bring both evil and good. If your on the bad side of town at a party and got shot God didn't make you go you choose to go there but if blaming God makes a person feel better.
The sun shines and the rain pours in everyone's life hard times are how a person builds character and overcomes or folds - I have heard it called spiritual growth can't happen if everything is sunshine and lolly pops. Heaven is in the next life not this one. Everything is learned from mistakes and the Character in how you handle it will shows who you are.
A little clarity , understanding, sign that God will be a person's friend, (and not give total misery, agony, affliction, misfortune, rape, or violent murder), to God's innocent children who believe him to be a trustworthy Father, would be nice.

Is that unreasonable for me to want God to grant people some guidance, companionship, and understanding?

I want to be able to tell people God loves them! Yet I see no evidence he gives a **** about people! So I can't!

If I have to suffer a life of misery and agony because God wants it, I accept the cross I must carry!

But for God to just leave people in darkness, confusion, emptiness, deception, feeling abandoned by him, feeling he isn't there, and then God complaining about sin in Scripture , and saying people go to hell for not believing in thiS cruel narcissistic God (who hides himself), is not acceptable!
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
A little clarity , understanding, sign that God will be a person's friend, (and not give total misery, agony, affliction, misfortune, rape, or violent murder), to God's innocent children who believe him to be a trustworthy Father, would be nice.

Is that unreasonable for me to want God to grant people some guidance, companionship, and understanding?

I want to be able to tell people God loves them! Yet I see no evidence he gives a **** about people! So I can't!

If I have to suffer a life of misery and agony because God wants it, I accept the cross I must carry!

But for God to just leave people in darkness, confusion, emptiness, deception, feeling abandoned by him, feeling he isn't there, and then God complaining about sin in Scripture , and saying people go to hell for not believing in thiS cruel narcissistic God (who hides himself), is not acceptable!

Well said, Spiderman.
 

Ella S.

Well-Known Member
Neither did I but now that I’m here I glad I wasn’t offered the choice to say no.

Good for you, but many people, given the choice, would gladly have never been born. They never consented to this existence.

Life certainly isn't a gift for them, but a burden that they were forcibly shackled with. You can't justify their anguish just because you feel good.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Good for you, but many people, given the choice, would gladly have never been born. They never consented to this existence.

Life certainly isn't a gift for them, but a burden that they were forcibly shackled with. You can't justify their anguish just because you feel good.
Amen, preach it sister! :)
 
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