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Have the Canadians gone completely insane? Gun paranoia in full force.

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Dad arrested because his daughter drew a picture of him holding a gun???

Sun News : Dad arrested over daughter's gun drawing

Police arrested a Kitchener, Ont., father outside his daughter's school because the four-year-old drew a picture of him holding a gun.

Jessie Sansone told the Record newspaper that he was in shock when he was arrested Wednesday and taken to a police station for questioning over the drawing. He was also strip-searched.

"This is completely insane. My daughter drew a gun on a piece of paper at school," he said.

Officials told the newspaper the move was necessary to ensure there were no guns accessible by children in the family's home. They also said comments by Sansone's daughter, Neaveh, that the man holding the gun in the picture was her dad and "he uses it to shoot bad guys and monsters," was concerning.

Police also searched Sansone's home while he was in custody. His wife and three children were taken to the police station, and the children were interviewed by Family and Children's Services.

Sansone's wife, Stephanie Squires, told the newspaper no one told them why her husband had been arrested.

"He had absolutely no idea what this was even about. I just kept telling them, 'You're making a mistake.'"
Several hours later, Sansone was released without charges.



Does anyone have any more info on this bizarre case?

Your thoughts?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I wonder what would happen If perchance a child's father in a drawing happened to be a police or peace officer or was a member of the armed forces? Would that child and father/mother get the same invasive jackbooted treatment in response to a child's drawing of a family member holding a gun?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I wonder what would happen If perchance a child's father in a drawing happened to be a police or peace officer or was a member of the armed forces? Would that child and father/mother get the same invasive jackbooted treatment in response to a child's drawing of a family member holding a gun?
Add politicians to the list of privileged government aparatchicks who aren't subject to the same abuse reserved for the little people.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I knew Canada was a little backwards, but damn. I hope he's able to take them to court. This is an outrageous violating of rights and liberty, all due to an overreaction to a silly kid drawing.

When I was a kid, I drew soldiers and ninjas shooting each other with guns and bazookas and slicing each other up with swords all the time.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I knew Canada was a little backwards, but damn. I hope he's able to take them to court. This is an outrageous violating of rights and liberty, all due to an overreaction to a silly kid drawing.
When I was a kid, I drew soldiers and ninjas shooting each other with guns and bazookas and slicing each other up with swords all the time.
In Canuckistan, your parents would've been serving life sentences at hard labor, eh?
 

JacobEzra.

Dr. Greenthumb
I find it a bit comical that they striped searched this guy. Though of course I wouldn't laugh so much if it was I striped searched because my daughter drew a picture of her daddy holding a gun
 

Wannabe Yogi

Well-Known Member
Ok guys and gals,

As far as I can tell this is an Isolated incident. One case not an overall indictment of Canada in general. Canadians can get guns just like Americans can the only difference they don't have the gun violence that we have. I would say Americans have way more problems around guns then our neighbors to the North.
 

Circle_One

Well-Known Member
Jebus. When I was in grade one, I wrote a story with accompanied pictures, of Freddy Kruger fighting Jason Voorhees.... how come no one came to my house to strip search all the monsters in my closet?

Or at least my brothers for making watch movies like that when I was 6....
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
Ok guys and gals,

As far as I can tell this is an Isolated incident. One case not an overall indictment of Canada in general. Canadians can get guns just like Americans can the only difference they don't have the gun violence that we have. I would say Americans have way more problems around guns then our neighbors to the North.
I would say fair enough, but people seem to think isolated incidents of irresponsible gun ownership are indictments of not just America overall, but inanimate objects.
 

Circle_One

Well-Known Member
Ok guys and gals,

As far as I can tell this is an Isolated incident. One case not an overall indictment of Canada in general. Canadians can get guns just like Americans can the only difference they don't have the gun violence that we have. I would say Americans have way more problems around guns then our neighbors to the North.


Ahh, that's also kind of a misconception. Gun violence in places like British Columbia is USA high. While most provinces are more peaceful, and we don't have constant shooting deaths, there are still bad guys with guns running around. They just don't shoot everyone that walks by them, is all.

I've had 4 mobsters gunned down in my neighborhood within the last year. We heard the shots.

Gun violence exists, it's just not rampant. At least not in Eastern Quebec, and the Prairie provinces, but as I said, Western Quebec gets worse and more violent every year.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Does anyone have any more info on this bizarre case?

Your thoughts?
The case results from the current nanny state mentality that infects our schools system here in Canada. The idea is a huge leap of "being safe, rather than sorry" and of teachers over-analyzing a simple drawing, abandoning judgment and pushing panic buttons. Their hysteria would have prompted the police to act due to the inherent authority ascribed to the educators involved.

As far as I am aware no apology has been given by the school officials for jumping the gun, if you will forgive the pun, and reacting in such a hysterical manner. In theory, they see nothing wrong with intruding on the lives of their students and their parents. Nay, it is a duty - to protect the children - at any cost.

You see, the bottom line is that here in Canada, owning a gun is a novelty and one that is frowned on. The idea is that there must be something wrong with anyone who would want to have guns... ... which, of course, makes us sitting ducks for our governments.
 

Wannabe Yogi

Well-Known Member
Ahh, that's also kind of a misconception. Gun violence in places like British Columbia is USA high. While most provinces are more peaceful, and we don't have constant shooting deaths, there are still bad guys with guns running around. They just don't shoot everyone that walks by them, is all.

I've had 4 mobsters gunned down in my neighborhood within the last year. We heard the shots.

Gun violence exists, it's just not rampant. At least not in Eastern Quebec, and the Prairie provinces, but as I said, Western Quebec gets worse and more violent every year.

All you have said is that in the worse places in Canada is like the Average places in America, when it comes to Gun Death Statistics. I think thats still a sizable improvement over our situation in the US. So how is this a misconception ?
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
All you have said is that in the worse places in Canada is like the Average places in America, when it comes to Gun Death Statistics. I think thats still a sizable improvement over our situation in the US. So how is this a misconception ?

I think gun violence in America is exaggerated. Yes, it's horrific in certain places, like impoverished ghettos in large cities, and most gun related crimes involve gangs and drug dealing. but to say that it represents the whole country regardless of location is inaccurate. There are small towns where practically every household owns a firearm, yet violent crime is unheard of.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Unlike in America, when one side has all the guns, you have to play attention to what they are saying. They can force you to listen. In the US, a rogue politician would have to consider how big a blood bath he/she is willing to take against an armed and trained population.
 

Wannabe Yogi

Well-Known Member
The case results from the current nanny state mentality that infects our schools system here in Canada. The idea is a huge leap of "being safe, rather than sorry" and of teachers over-analyzing a simple drawing, abandoning judgment and pushing panic buttons.

We also have a nanny state here in America. Only we don't successfully protect our kids. As a person who spent years working with abused kids I can tell you both the left and the Right are wrong when it comes to child protection. On the religious right you have people who are more interested the rights of parents to discipline then the rights of kids not to be abused. On the left we have folks who see the abusers as victims of abuse and over look their treatment of kids. America is not a mental health model for the treatment of children.

I can tell you real life experiences (that I have personally seen) of Jack Booted child protective case workers that would curl your hair. Not only do they not protect kids but they manege to violate everyones human rights in the process. This is done because Americans are much more interested in not paying Taxes then protecting children. In fact in many cycles social worker has become a dirty word.
 
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