He is Risen - The Evidence

[joelr]

Are not people killed for killing . Hanging , electric Chair , lethal injection ect ?
But as for the bible ,I believe its wrong to take life but not wrong for God who created life to take life and or command others to act his Judgment in a specific Context.

More ridiculous excuses for an evil God who commanded all living things in 6 cities to be killed. In other cities you make an offer of forced labor (immoral) and if they refuse you kill them and take women and children as "plunder" to do as you will with.

The archeology on the Canaanites shows they were a farming society with their own similar religion, honored their dead, respected parents and were not sacrificing children (Yahweh killed thousands of children in the plague that killed 70,000) so the apologetics that they were "evil" is a fail.
Deuteronomy was written by men, not a space God.
There is no evidence any of this text was written by a God.

 

[joelr]

I see you making baseless claims and then accusing others of doing the same when getting called out for it. But I acknowledge your dodge as what it is, inability to back up your OP with anything of substance.

Yes he will talk about "claims" and "baseless claims" but the minute any evidence actually comes out it's an immediate dodge, ignore and denial.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Are not people killed for killing . Hanging , electric Chair , lethal injection ect ?

Actually, civilized countries consider the death penalty to be a rather immoral abomination.
The US is one of the odd ones out in the "first world" in that it still carries out death penalties. And not without international criticism, I might add.

The death penalty has no place in a modern 21st century secular democracy.

But as for the bible ,I believe its wrong to take life but not wrong for God who created life to take life and or command others to act his Judgment in a specific Context.

So, you have a double standard.
And are morally bankrupt because of it.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Then God Judged in the time of Noah Literally only 8 people survived that.

No, not "literally".
Rather "mythologically".

 

[John1.12]

No, not "literally".
Rather "mythologically".

Its says literally ' Eight '

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Its says literally ' Eight '

Yes but it did not literally happen.
Many stories say many things that didn't actually occur in reality.

The Quran literally states that Mohammed flew to heaven on a winged horse.

 

[John1.12]

Yes but it did not literally happen.
Many stories say many things that didn't actually occur in reality.

The Quran literally states that Mohammed flew to heaven on a winged horse.

Some people believe the universe popped into existence from nothing ,that we evolved from goo to you via the zoo , life came from non life.

 

[PearlSeeker]

Yes, a person that had hallucinations wrote about it. And how does that make the hallucination reliable?

Paul was not an eyewitness. He claimed that there were some to people that had no way of checking out his claims.

It was convincing enough for Paul. If it's not for you, fine.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It was convincing enough for Paul. If it's not for you, fine.

Why believe someone that had a hallucination? You should be believing the likes of Charles Manson.

People that go through psychotic episodes often believe them. That is not a very convincing argument.

 

[PearlSeeker]

A vision can be a mental projection or a spirit.

A spirit is someone alive.

 

[Subduction Zone]

A spirit is someone alive.

No, to make that claim you would need to show that spirits even exist. Oh wait, they do:

But I do not see anyone alive there.

 

[Trailblazer]

But I do not see anyone alive there.

You will see them later.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You will see them later.

Oh yeah! You are right.

Hey!! Those do not look like people:

 

[Trailblazer]

Oh yeah! You are right.

As I tell all my atheist friends, you will have your 'verifiable' evidence when you die....

Till then, there is no point arguing about who is right and who is wrong.
I wish I could save them from the surprise but only God has that much power....
and only God knows everything so only God knows what that surprise will be.

But merely based upon logic, if a person who thought they were going to be dead finds out they are not dead after all, that will be quite a surprise..... We will all be surprised because nobody knows what the afterlife will be like, but atheists are going to be more surprised than believers for obvious reasons.

 

[Subduction Zone]

As I tell all my atheist friends, you will have your 'verifiable' evidence when you die....

Till then, there is no point arguing about who is right and who is wrong.
I wish I could save them from the surprise but only God has that much power....
and only God knows everything so only God knows what that surprise will be.

But merely based upon logic, if a person who thought they were going to be dead finds out they are not dead after all, that will be quite a surprise..... We will all be surprised because nobody knows what the afterlife will be like, but atheists are going to be more surprised than believers for obvious reasons.

Aah yes, the old Kiss Hank's Donkey argument. Very convincing

 

[Trailblazer]

Aah yes, the old Kiss Hank's Donkey argument. Very convincing

It was not intended to be convincing.... You will only be convinced when you see it for yourself.
That time will come eventually because nobody lives forever.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It was not intended to be convincing.... You will only be convinced when you see it for yourself.
That time will come eventually because nobody lives forever.

But then you are back to claiming that God is evil.

 

[Trailblazer]

But then you are back to claiming that God is evil.

Why would that mean God is evil?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Why would that mean God is evil?

What happens to those that cannot find God due to his incompetence?

 

[Trailblazer]

What happens to those that cannot find God due to his incompetence?

I they are like some atheists who have sincerely searched for God and came up empty-handed then I believe they will be plunged into the ocean of God's mercy, but if they call God incompetent that will probably be another story.

God cannot be incompetent at revealing Himself because God is infallible, so that means it has to be some humans who have failed to find God. God, being merciful, will take the 'reasons' for the human failure into account on judgement day.

“But we must always remember that our existence and everything we have or ever will have is dependent upon the mercy of God and His bounty, and therefore He can accept into His heaven, which is really nearness to Him, even the lowliest if He pleases. We always have the hope of receiving His mercy if we reach out for it."

(From a letter written on behalf of Shoghi Effendi to an individual believer, January 12, 1957)
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