Israel the monster of region,
Maybe this war end the genocide in Gaza.
And open new era of Peace.
Netanyahu push the region in regional war.
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Heading to an Israeli - Lebanon Iran etc War
- Thread starter Ben Dhyan
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Maybe this war end the genocide in Gaza.
And open new era of Peace.
Netanyahu push the region in regional war.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I'm pretty sure Israel can handle Iran.
As you sit home, safe from the consequences of such idiocy.
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
Israel Working with US and UK as Retaliatory Strike from Iran Looms
Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said in a statement Friday that he spoke with his American and British counterparts, Lloyd Austin and John Healey, and provided “a situational assessment in light of recent security developments.”
Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said in a statement Friday that he spoke with his American and British counterparts, Lloyd Austin and John Healey, and provided “a situational assessment in light of recent security developments.”
This time, Iran’s response may be more fierce, given the embarrassment of having a foreign dignitary and top ally assassinated in the heart of its capital. Among its options are another direct assault on Israel, stepped-up attacks by its proxies in the region or hitting Israeli targets elsewhere
Israel has stopped short of confirming it was behind killing Haniyeh, but it hasn’t pushed back against the claim either. His death also came hours after Israel killed a top Hezbollah commander in Beirut, Fuad Shukr.
Austin, who earlier this week reiterated that the U.S. “certainly will help defend Israel” if attacked, spoke with Gallant and is weighing moves to reinforce America’s presence in the region, the Pentagon said Friday. White House spokesman John Kirby said earlier in a CNN interview that the Pentagon is ensuring it has “the right resources and capabilities” in the region, including both equipment and personnel.
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Those who dismiss responsible journalism seek to impress with this type of pablum.
</yawn>For the rest of us, here are the reports from The Telegraph, The Times of Israel, snd the New York Times respectively:
- Mossad hired Iranian agents to plant bombs in Haniyeh's residence
- Mossad hired IRGC agents in May to plant explosives that killed Haniyeh -- report
- Iran Arrests Dozens in Search for Suspects in Killing of Hamas Leader
The fervor of the response to the killing of Mr. Haniyeh underscores what a devastating security failure this was for Iran’s leadership, with the assassination occurring at a heavily guarded compound in the country’s capital within hours of the swearing-in ceremony of the country’s new president.
“The perception that Iran can neither protect its homeland nor its key allies could be fatal for the Iranian regime, because it basically signals to its foes that if they can’t topple the Islamic Republic, they can decapitate it,” said Ali Vaez, the Iran director for the International Crisis Group.
It then summarizes:
The intensity and scope of the Guards’ investigation reveal the degree to which the assassination has shocked and rattled the country’s leadership.
The deadly blast, which also killed Mr. Haniyeh’s Palestinian bodyguard, wasn’t only an earth-shattering collapse of intelligence and security; nor only a failure to protect a key ally; nor evidence of the inability to curb the infiltration of Mossad; nor a humiliating reputational blow. It was all of those, and more.
Perhaps most important, it delivered a jarring realization that if Israel could target such an important guest, on a day when the capital was under heightened security, and carry out the attack at a highly secure compound equipped with bulletproof windows, air defense and radar, then no one was really safe.
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
I could care less about the media, or how Haniyah was assassinated, the fact is that he was assassinated, and this thread is meant to track the trend to war as a consequence.
Now I don't mind that you are into the minutiae of popular press gossip, go for your life, but please don't bother me with it, I'm primarily interested in the salient facts that relate to the trend towards war.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Well if the military wants to give me a call to come back.......
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
Another ex-military here, it is fascinating to observe the armchair media fixated experts explain to us how it is.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
..but what are the consequences in the Muslim world ( and Europe etc. ), when it is
perceived that Israel / US is exterminating and controlling Muslims .. keeping them down..
.. controlling them financially etc. ?
Where does it end?
It doesn't .. ever-increasing violence .. thanks.
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
You do understand that snipping like distorts the context, it is very unethical, and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I doubt the military ever would call me back given I had, since my honorable discharge where have had two heart attacks and a bad ear, not to mention my age on the verge of 60 now spouting arthritis, but truth be told, if they do call me back I'll be there in a heartbeat no matter how terrible I feel personally.
Giving your ex-military yourself, you know the meaning behind the saying that you continue on with the mission.
Something the media fixated experts will never fathom with those who had worn the uniform.
MayPeaceBeUpOnYou
Active Member
This is another evidence that the zionisten don’t wanna peace but rather they wanna be escalate, just read the us send more warships to the area which just says it all. But the Zionist can kill high officials of Hamas and still claim for wanting peace. Just kill the negotiators in the name of peace.
I am still astonished how people still stand blindly after the west in who are the bad guys and the good guys. We all know that history shows us it a certain country in the middle go against the west they were being brought down, invaded, coups, murdered and sometimes even arm groups that eventually turn their backs in their supporters.
Israel is occupying the Palestinians for decades and even tho most people recognize this but still decide to support them.
And if the Palestinians are being occupied do they have a right to resistance?
According to international law they have that right but why then are the countries that support this resistance are labeled as terrorist or a evil state as for example the hoethies, hezbollah or Iran.
Aren’t the countries that support a state that oppresses a population the bad guys?
It just amazes me that the interest of the west goes above the facts.
You can support a nation that killes 40.000 people in 9 month but you can’t support the Palestinians otherwise you are evil.
Your opening post disseminates the spin of an embarrassed. You then protest ...
Apparently, you goal is to entertain us with your play-by-play but "care less" about the accuracy or import of your representation of any particular play. I'm not at all sure that there's much to say in response other than "OK" -- that and to note that I'll take your proffered play-by-play for what it's worth.
Have a great weekend.
I believe that to be certainly true of Netanyahu and his allies.
GoodAttention
Active Member
You raise a good point regarding the collective west, specifically countries within the G20, not officially recognizing Palestine.
Since the war this is starting to change and support to recognize a Palestinian state amongst these countries has increased.
However, this doesn't mean the west is going to turn their back on Israel, so Palestinians, as well as other Arab Muslim nations need to consider accepting Israel also.
MayPeaceBeUpOnYou
Active Member
Obviously they are not doing that since it would mean losing their presence in the Middle East. Obviously the west are the one that helped creating this issue. What is very clear is that the support for Israel is unconditional to Israel. You might hear some leaders go against certain actions in speeches and stuff. But for example sanctions. How come sanctions are not given to Israel for decades but when Russia or Iran make one wrong move then hell breaks loose. The double standards is amazing and even more amazing is the ignorance of people that think the west are justly and are the good guys
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Plenty of support for Israel already underway.
www.bbc.com
US deploys jets and warships as Iran threatens Israel
Iran says it will "punish" Israel for the assassination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh.
Again, I agree. And I feel precisely that same about those who think that the Iranian regime, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and Hamas are justified "good guys."
GoodAttention
Active Member
That is the past. Now it is up to Israel and Palestine to make the future different.
The US needs to think this way too and recognize Palestine.