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Autodidact
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I didn't say you could succeed, I said you're trying. I am living evidence of your failure.
You are not aware of any ways that anyone can make anyone else do things?
And I love how my choice in love is compared to / thou shall not kill. (nice)
You have as much say about other people's romantic choices as I do about your fashion choices.
btw, and in a small aside, if you are wearing mixed fibers, God also has something to say about your fashion choices. They're an abomination!
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
What slipped in where? You do know that the things you quoted were all written this century, right?
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
What are you referring to? It might help if you use the quote function.
rocka21
Brother Rock
I didn't say you could succeed, I said you're trying. I am living evidence of your failure.
You are not aware of any ways that anyone can make anyone else do things?
And I love how my choice in love is compared to / thou shall not kill. (nice)
You have as much say about other people's romantic choices as I do about your fashion choices.
btw, and in a small aside, if you are wearing mixed fibers, God also has something to say about your fashion choices. They're an abomination!
can you give me evidence of me trying to conform you?
who said same sex is a " romanitc choice"
and by the way these are MY OPNIONS.
i think you should not commit murder, i think you should not have sex with a sheep, and i think you should not sleep with the same sex.
and if my bible does not matter to you , why try and Quote it?
rasor
Member
No, your premis as above states my reason is religious.In this you are wrong as I am an atheist. If you want to change your premis thats upto you,but your original one is burning brightly
rocka21
Brother Rock
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Your position is that since you believe that your holy book proscribes gay sex as a sin, it is therefore morally wrong. It doesn't follow, unless you agree that you should give up your socks and your bacon and eggs as immoral.
Me, did you miss it?
Who else?
And I think you should decide what you should do, and I should decide what I should do, as long as I'm minding my own business and not trying to make you do it too.
Because it matters to you.
rasor
Member
Yes I have (a logical reason).The logical reason is sex has been "designed" by evolution/nature to reproduce.Yes,sex is great/enjoyable but the underlying reason for it is reproduction.You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise.
rocka21
Brother Rock
Your position is that since you believe that your holy book proscribes gay sex as a sin, it is therefore morally wrong. It doesn't follow, unless you agree that you should give up your socks and your bacon and eggs as immoral.
Me, did you miss it?
Who else?
And I think you should decide what you should do, and I should decide what I should do, as long as I'm minding my own business and not trying to make you do it too.
Because it matters to you.
so a murder is ok, as long as he minds his own business , the guy screwing the sheep on tv is ok. the gay pride march that says it not " wrong" to have same sex is ok?
just do it in your house and keep your march and your rainbow bumber sticker to yourself.
i will mind my business if you mind yours.:angel2:
Trey of Diamonds
Well-Known Member
But you are not minding your business, you are minding mine. You are telling me the public school system should come under your moral guidelines. You are telling me that any lifestyle other than your own must remain behind closed doors. You are telling me what I can and cannot do. That is what is wrong. That is why you are wrong. Believing what you want is fine, having your own opinions are fine, living your life and teaching your children your beliefs is all fine. Now allow me the same options and give me the same respect.
rocka21
Brother Rock
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http://www.massresistance.org/media/video/brainwashing.html
and you were saying...........:rainbow1:
http://www.massresistance.org/media/video/brainwashing.html
and you were saying...........:rainbow1:
Smoke
Done here.
Funny how those good Christian people who care so much about the Bible never take the time, in between judging us, and attacking us, and lying about us, and voting to keep us third-class citizens, never think to repent of their own hardheartedness, and never take time to read that Bible.
Let not mercy and truth forsake thee:
bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart.
Devise not evil against thy neighbour, seeing he dwelleth securely by thee. Strive not with a man without cause, if he have done thee no harm.
Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:
and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye;
and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
Smoke
Done here.
When you're older, you'll understand things better.
Trey of Diamonds
Well-Known Member
No worries, it's beer:30 here too.
Ok, I see your biological point and yes, from a purely scientifc viewpoint and looking at the genetic big picture you could draw those conclusions. What troubles me is you seem to be using this fact as an excuse to discuss why homosexual sex is wrong. Although I admit that is just the feeling I get from the tone of your posts, you haven't actually come out and said it point blank.
Only human beings and dolphins have sex for recreation rather than on a fixed biological schedule for procreation alone. I have always said that once human beings stopped going into heat and began to have sex just for the fun of it they became a bi-sexual species, at least physically. Sexually we are all bi-sexual, we are all able to have sex with either gender. That is why it take more than just the physical act to label a person homosexual.
Ok, here is a better explantion of how I view relationships.
When forming a romantic relationship, a connection is made between two people on three levels, the physical, the mental and the emotional. For a relationship to work the two people must connect on all three of these levels. If you find you connect more with members of the same sex then you are homosexual. I think there are lots of cases where two men bonded and lived there entire lives in a homosexual relationship without ever knowing it because they never consumated the physical side. Nor do I think the multitude of man on man sex that occurs in prison to be homosexual. It is just physical release or an attempt to exert power and control over another individual. No romantic relationship there at all.
I hope that better explains things, if not have a couple more pints and re-read.
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New Member
Did he say Homosexuality is not natural?
Trey of Diamonds
Well-Known Member
Yes, yes. You can find all the examples you want but the fact is these are retaliations to the hate and fear spread by your side of the fence. Two wrongs do not make a right and I condemn any example of a special interest group attempting to one up the other special interest groups. But their wrong doing does not make you right.
Buttercup
Veteran Member
Are you aware that homosexuality is found in the animal kingdom? How can that be if every creature under the sun is meant to reproduce?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15750604/?GT1=8717
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Actually, calling it a genetic "distortion" is fairly incorrect, unless you consider all genetic messages distorted.
There are many examples of seemingly abnormal traits in the realm of animal behavior that suggest that such genetic variations are actually conducive to the fitness of a species. Take sexual mimicry--where one individual of a species takes on the roles or traits of the opposite sex--as an example. (Note, I am not suggesting that homosexuals take on the traits of another sex, though I am sure there are examples.)
Female mimicry, for instance, is often used by subordinate males as a way to gain entry into the lair of the dominant male in order to mate with the dominant's female (Goodenough, McGuire, Wallace 321).
There are disadvantages, as the Wikipedia entry explains: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_mimicry. But, the point is that just because a genetic variation appears "abnormal," it may serve an important purpose for the species. (Like, interestingly, genetic variation.)
This isn't taking into account the individual. There are many that are gay and happy to be gay. There may be those who wish otherwise. But is the wishing otherwise due to the negative reactions of others towards the sexuality? Probably, in most cases. (Hence, the reasons why homophobic bullying--an extremely malicious form of bullying not always directed at homosexuals--is being fought at the grade school level.)
It would be a wiser path to eliminate the hate directed towards homosexuals than to chemically change them.
Goodenough, J., B. McGuire, R.A. Wallace. (2001). Perspectives on animal behavior. New York: John Wiley & Sons, Inc.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
It is due to homophobic bullying that many homosexuals suffer and would seek "treatment." It is also because of this that many parents would seek to prevent homosexuality in their children.
It seems a far wiser course of action to combat the homophobic bullying.