Heaven doesn't Care

[viole]

There's another thread lost to digression....deciding if Man evolved of ape or not.

Too bad.

Let's see if the spiritual facet plays better.....

Stand before heaven and make excuses.....sorry.....I'm just an ape!
Stand before heaven and make excuses.....sorry....I'm only human!

The other thread contains argument there's no difference!
Humans ARE apes!

I say heaven doesn't give a damn!

Heaven is seeking that portion that is angelic!

There's in no glory in being human!....let alone pleading to be only an animal.

just my say so.....counter if you care to....

I suspect angels are apes too. Well, they look like apes with wings anyways, don't they?

Ciao

- viole

 

[idav]

I suspect angels are apes too. Well, they look like apes with wings anyways, don't they?

Ciao

- viole

Yup, humans with wings.

 

[jonathan180iq]

...I'll never watch The Wizard of Oz the same way again...

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I don't believe in heaven because of a book.
and I have no rug for your knees....

Okay

Do I see confusion?

From me, you sure do. You can tell, because I constantly ask you to speak plainly and clarify your meaning. Far as I can remember, you never have. So I remain confused. On the plus side, this hasn't effected my sleeping.

Stand before heaven a make excuses......say I.
Blame your animal nature?.....plead you are just human?
Excuse yourself for heaven's decision to leave you where you fell?

You believe we were given freewill, but will be punished for exercising it. Then I say your God is a hypocrite, and I'd not worship him regardless of his existence. If he so chooses to use his powers to punish me, then so be it. It won't redeem his hypocrisy, but only demonstrate his power. Worship power if you will.

I don't believe you can excuse yourself and blame your lack of spirit upon the flesh you did live in.

I don't suppose I have. I don't think I can say things any more clearly than I have above, and I guess your God has Internet access.

Do you think it matters that you are evolved?.....or made?
What of your freewill?

Freewill...phht. You won't believe in freewill any more than a donkey driver does whilst using a carrot and a stick to drive their cart.

Anyone still want to call himself an ape?

I'm an ape.

Anyone still want to claim?....'I'm only human!'........

I'm human. Only is redundant. I am how I was formed, I suppose.

Do you think heaven cares?

About whether I fit within the scientific class of ape or not? God, I'd sure hope not. What a ridiculous thing to give a crap about. Course, the only person here obsessed by it appears to be you.

 

[Iti oj]

Okay



From me, you sure do. You can tell, because I constantly ask you to speak plainly and clarify your meaning. Far as I can remember, you never have. So I remain confused. On the plus side, this hasn't effected my sleeping.



You believe we were given freewill, but will be punished for exercising it. Then I say your God is a hypocrite, and I'd not worship him regardless of his existence. If he so chooses to use his powers to punish me, then so be it. It won't redeem his hypocrisy, but only demonstrate his power. Worship power if you will.



I don't suppose I have. I don't think I can say things any more clearly than I have above, and I guess your God has Internet access.



Freewill...phht. You won't believe in freewill any more than a donkey driver does whilst using a carrot and a stick to drive their cart.



I'm an ape.



I'm human. Only is redundant. I am how I was formed, I suppose.



About whether I fit within the scientific class of ape or not? God, I'd sure hope not. What a ridiculous thing to give a crap about. Course, the only person here obsessed by it appears to be you.

I wish I could give you more then one frubal. I might need to sock puppet it up just to frubal you, but those frubals would be pointless ones.

 

[chinu]

Viewing ourselves as some type of pinnacle of existence. It's arrogance.

We are one in a damn-hundred-bajillion types of awesome things, yet some believe we are like this bridge between animal and deity - as if that was something that "those lowly animals" aspired to be.

We live under the premise and authority of psychological constructs that we invented, yet view them on a higher plane of existence for some reason.

Apes didn't "upgrade" into humans. If you people could spend one week living within great ape societies you would no longer be inclined to entertain such arrogant ideas.

We humans evolved/upgraded from apes. It also means that we humans were also apes/monkeys somewhere in our previous births. If we declare ourselves as apes somewhere in our previous births than there's nothing arrogant in viewing ourselves as some type of pinnacle of existence in our current position.

Moreover, if the question is.. Why humans are pinnacle of existence ?
Its just because in this whole existence/universe only humans can have the desire to meditate/think on questions like.. "Who am I" or "Why am I" or "What's the purpose of life" or "What's the purpose of existence" or "Who created the whole" or "Who is creator" or "Who is God" or "God" etc. On the surface, whether all these questions may sound very different to each other, but they aren't. All these questions leads towards one common point. This one common point is.. Oneness with supreme-consciousness/God.

Thus.. we humans are pinnacle of existence just because we are just one step behind to oneness with supreme-consciousness/God. Whereas other creatures are two-step behind, or three step behind, or more.

If we humans are grown-up children/creatures of our father, its doesn't mean that we may be pride of being so. Instead of being pride we must look forward towards our last and final step/destination. We may also try to know/learn our responsibility/duty towards our brothers and sisters (Apes/animals) who are behind us.

 

[paragon]

*climbs in through the back gate*

 

[jonathan180iq]

Moreover, if the question is.. Why humans are pinnacle of existence ?
Its just because in this whole existence/universe only humans can have the desire to meditate/think on questions like.. "Who am I" or "Why am I" or "What's the purpose of life" or "What's the purpose of existence" or "Who created the whole" or "Who is creator" or "Who is God" or "God" etc. On the surface, whether all these questions may sound very different to each other, but they aren't. All these questions leads towards one common point. This one common point is.. Oneness with supreme-consciousness/God.

You need to research more the conversations that chimpanzees have amongst themselves, and with their keepers, after they've learned sign language.

As I said before, your current stance is arrogant.

 

[Thief]

I suspect angels are apes too. Well, they look like apes with wings anyways, don't they?

Ciao

- viole

ha ha......and I hope they have a human sense of humor!
I keep seeing portrayals of paint and sculpture.....sword in hand!

but I don't think the item in the Wizard of Oz counts as such!

 

[Iti oj]

ha ha......and I hope they have a human sense of humor!
I keep seeing portrayals of paint and sculpture.....sword in hand!

but I don't think the item in the Wizard of Oz counts as such!

Is that a threat?

 

[Thief]

Okay



From me, you sure do. You can tell, because I constantly ask you to speak plainly and clarify your meaning. Far as I can remember, you never have. So I remain confused. On the plus side, this hasn't effected my sleeping.



You believe we were given freewill, but will be punished for exercising it. Then I say your God is a hypocrite, and I'd not worship him regardless of his existence. If he so chooses to use his powers to punish me, then so be it. It won't redeem his hypocrisy, but only demonstrate his power. Worship power if you will.



I don't suppose I have. I don't think I can say things any more clearly than I have above, and I guess your God has Internet access.



Freewill...phht. You won't believe in freewill any more than a donkey driver does whilst using a carrot and a stick to drive their cart.



I'm an ape.



I'm human. Only is redundant. I am how I was formed, I suppose.



About whether I fit within the scientific class of ape or not? God, I'd sure hope not. What a ridiculous thing to give a crap about. Course, the only person here obsessed by it appears to be you.

and dissecting my postwork is obviously adding to your confusion.
You think you're getting somewhere.

So you lean to discussion (as in the other thread) that your earthly form matters?
and almost in the same breath (and here in your post) that you hope not!

INDEED!
The discussion of your earthly form will not likely matter.

What you have said....what you have done probably will.
It's not a matter of punishment.
It's cause and effect.

do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
A code of behavior....and fair warning.

It WILL be done unto you as you have done unto others.

So if you insist on your form...and not your spirit.....
bananas for you.

 

[Iti oj]

ISo what's more important. My charity work, dedication to forgiveness and my desire to raise humanity up or that I think I'm an ape?

 

[jtartar]

There's another thread lost to digression....deciding if Man evolved of ape or not.

Too bad.

Let's see if the spiritual facet plays better.....

Stand before heaven and make excuses.....sorry.....I'm just an ape!
Stand before heaven and make excuses.....sorry....I'm only human!

The other thread contains argument there's no difference!
Humans ARE apes!

I say heaven doesn't give a damn!

Heaven is seeking that portion that is angelic!

There's in no glory in being human!....let alone pleading to be only an animal.

just my say so.....counter if you care to....

Thief,
The world is indeed, a mess, but why is it this way?? The reason is logical whe you know the truth. If God who had recorded that HE IS LOVE, were ruling over this earth, it would definitely not be like it is today. The Bible tells us that Satan is the God of this world, 2Cor 4:3,4, John 5:29, Rev 12:9.
There is a word, Pan-satanism, which means that the conditions we have on earth are the personality of the ruler of the world.
In a short time God will take over control of this earth, by sending His son to judge the earth, and then establish a paradise earth, with perfect people over The Thousand Year Judgment Day, Rev 20:4-15.
Jesus will judge this world through, Armageddon, which is described clearly, at 2Thes1:6-9, Rev 16:16, Rev 19:11-21.
When Adam and Eve rebelled against God, Gen 2:17, God turned the world of mankind over to Satan for a period of time. That time is almost up!! The fact is, the conditions that we see on earth today are the exact conditions Jesus would be taking place, just before his Second Advent, COMING! Matt chapter 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. The conditions we are experiencing are unprecedented, never has all these things Jesus mentioned been at the level they all are today, as time goes by it will be even more clear as there will be a constant deterioration of actions and morals.
God's purpose that He stated at Gen 1:26-28, has not changed. This earth WILL become a paradise, with perfect people living forever upon it, just as He originally purposed. This will take place during Jesus reign for the Thousand Year Judgment Day, Rev 20:4-7.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

There's another thread lost to digression....deciding if Man evolved of ape or not.

Too bad.

Let's see if the spiritual facet plays better.....

Stand before heaven and make excuses.....sorry.....I'm just an ape!
Stand before heaven and make excuses.....sorry....I'm only human!

The other thread contains argument there's no difference!
Humans ARE apes!

I say heaven doesn't give a damn!

Heaven is seeking that portion that is angelic!

There's in no glory in being human!....let alone pleading to be only an animal.

just my say so.....counter if you care to....

Stand before humans and make excuses.....sorry....I'm only heaven!

 

[Iti oj]

Stand before humans and make excuses.....sorry....I'm only heaven!

Right?

 

[Thief]

ISo what's more important. My charity work, dedication to forgiveness and my desire to raise humanity up or that I think I'm an ape?

Now you're talking!
The list you made is more than animal.

(if you do such things and call yourself an ape....you're lying to yourself.)

 

[Thief]

Thief,
The world is indeed, a mess, but why is it this way?? The reason is logical whe you know the truth. If God who had recorded that HE IS LOVE, were ruling over this earth, it would definitely not be like it is today. The Bible tells us that Satan is the God of this world, 2Cor 4:3,4, John 5:29, Rev 12:9.
There is a word, Pan-satanism, which means that the conditions we have on earth are the personality of the ruler of the world.
In a short time God will take over control of this earth, by sending His son to judge the earth, and then establish a paradise earth, with perfect people over The Thousand Year Judgment Day, Rev 20:4-15.
Jesus will judge this world through, Armageddon, which is described clearly, at 2Thes1:6-9, Rev 16:16, Rev 19:11-21.
When Adam and Eve rebelled against God, Gen 2:17, God turned the world of mankind over to Satan for a period of time. That time is almost up!! The fact is, the conditions that we see on earth today are the exact conditions Jesus would be taking place, just before his Second Advent, COMING! Matt chapter 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. The conditions we are experiencing are unprecedented, never has all these things Jesus mentioned been at the level they all are today, as time goes by it will be even more clear as there will be a constant deterioration of actions and morals.
God's purpose that He stated at Gen 1:26-28, has not changed. This earth WILL become a paradise, with perfect people living forever upon it, just as He originally purposed. This will take place during Jesus reign for the Thousand Year Judgment Day, Rev 20:4-7.

ok...but...God gave Man dominion.

If Satan does anything at all, it is by way.... through the man.

If your hand does anything at all....you thought you should, or you felt like it.
If you point to the devil, he would laugh.

He didn't twist your arm....now did he?

 

[Thief]

Thief,
The world is indeed, a mess, but why is it this way?? The reason is logical whe you know the truth. If God who had recorded that HE IS LOVE, were ruling over this earth, it would definitely not be like it is today. The Bible tells us that Satan is the God of this world, 2Cor 4:3,4, John 5:29, Rev 12:9.
There is a word, Pan-satanism, which means that the conditions we have on earth are the personality of the ruler of the world.
In a short time God will take over control of this earth, by sending His son to judge the earth, and then establish a paradise earth, with perfect people over The Thousand Year Judgment Day, Rev 20:4-15.
Jesus will judge this world through, Armageddon, which is described clearly, at 2Thes1:6-9, Rev 16:16, Rev 19:11-21.
When Adam and Eve rebelled against God, Gen 2:17, God turned the world of mankind over to Satan for a period of time. That time is almost up!! The fact is, the conditions that we see on earth today are the exact conditions Jesus would be taking place, just before his Second Advent, COMING! Matt chapter 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. The conditions we are experiencing are unprecedented, never has all these things Jesus mentioned been at the level they all are today, as time goes by it will be even more clear as there will be a constant deterioration of actions and morals.
God's purpose that He stated at Gen 1:26-28, has not changed. This earth WILL become a paradise, with perfect people living forever upon it, just as He originally purposed. This will take place during Jesus reign for the Thousand Year Judgment Day, Rev 20:4-7.

ok...but...God gave Man dominion.

If Satan does anything at all, it is by way.... through the man.

If your hand does anything at all....your thought you should or you felt like it.
If you point to the devil, he would laugh.

He didn't twist your arm....or did he?

 

[outhouse]

Mythology could care less what types of human have existed in the past.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

Mythology could care less what types of human have existed in the past.

And even assuming that heaven does exist, I'm still pretty sure it wouldn't "care" about anything at all, considering locations themselves are not capable of emotions anyway.