Heaven or Hell | The choice is yours

[Trey of Diamonds]

Lets say you die and find out that there really is a Heaven and a Hell. Lets also say that you're told Hell is full of all your friends and those few family members you actually like while Heaven is full of all those self righteous evangelicals you despise. Now, you're given a choice; Heaven or Hell? Which would you choose? Why?

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

I suspect i wouldn't be able to choose.

Maybe having to choose is Hell.

 

[jargin]

If hell is still eternal torment, I don't think it would/should change anyone's choice just because friends are involved. I think it would make it worse if your friends are in hell because you know they are being tortured too. And isn't the whole idea of heaven eternal bliss even if people you despise are involved?

 

[Koldo]

The wonder of being too slow to delete a post!

Maybe having to choose is Hell.

Purgatory!

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

The reason I ask is, when I was growing up overseas I had lots of muslim friends. When I returned to the states the Baptist said all my friends were going to Hell and I should get baptised and join the church or I would go to Hell too. Eventually I told them I would rather go to Hell with my friends than Heaven with them. I just wondered if anyone else felt the same.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

What's a "friend"?

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Lets say you die and find out that there really is a Heaven and a Hell. Lets also say that you're told Hell is full of all your friends and those few family members you actually like while Heaven is full of all those self righteous evangelicals you despise. Now, you're given a choice; Heaven or Hell? Which would you choose? Why?

I'd choose pure chaos with all the fun people over pure order with all the boring people any day.

 

[Falvlun]

I think the concept of Hell precludes any possibility of pleasure, so while it's a noble sentiment to stick with your friends, I don't think it would bring you or them any sense of satisfaction.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I'd need to see a brochure from each resort first.

 

[Infinitum]

Assuming Hell is eternal torment and Heaven eternal bliss and playing a harp on a silvery cloud Heaven would be just as bad Hell for me or even worse. If all my friends ended up in Hell, all the interesting people would be there anyway, so I would follow. They wouldn't be able to stop us from talking all the time, would they?

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

I think the concept of Hell precludes any possibility of pleasure, so while it's a noble sentiment to stick with your friends, I don't think it would bring you or them any sense of satisfaction.

At the time, my point was that there could be no pleasure with those who claimed to be going to Heaven. Also, there is more than one version of Hell. Consider Hel as opposed to Valhalla. That version of Hel was considered bad because it wasn't full of continuous fighting and war. It was Hell because it was boring. I've always considered Heaven and Hell to be rather subjective. But then I've always been considered weird by, well, by pretty much everyone.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Assuming Hell is eternal torment and Heaven eternal bliss and playing a harp on a silvery cloud Heaven would be just as bad Hell for me or even worse. If all my friends ended up in Hell, all the interesting people would be there anyway, so I would follow. They wouldn't be able to stop us from talking all the time, would they?

 

[Quagmire]

Lets say you die and find out that there really is a Heaven and a Hell. Lets also say that you're told Hell is full of all your friends and those few family members you actually like while Heaven is full of all those self righteous evangelicals you despise. Now, you're given a choice; Heaven or Hell? Which would you choose? Why?

So you're saying there is no actual Heaven in your scenario.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

I always wondered what you looked like.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I always wondered what you looked like.

Just be glad you don't see what's in the other end.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

So you're saying there is no actual Heaven in your scenario.

That was how it felt to me at the time, to be honest. I was being forced to choose between Hell with my friends and a different kind of Hell with a bunch of creeps.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

Just be glad you don't see what's in the other end.

:areyoucra Just had to go there didn't you...

 

[Sgloom]

hmmm, could i just ask god to erase me from existance? eternity just seems like a long time? im sure after like a billion years id get pretty bored wherever im at. and im not a big fan of torment, not only would i be suffering, but id be watching all my friends suffer as well. that would suck

 

[kerravon]

That was how it felt to me at the time, to be honest. I was being forced to choose between Hell with my friends and a different kind of Hell with a bunch of creeps.

What exactly do you want Heaven to be like? Did you consider the possibility that you might already be living in Heaven? Maybe you were aborted as a baby and you were sent straight to Heaven and your actual mother in the universe above us is distressed as she is harrangued for aborting you. What would you tell her about your life here if you could?

 

[kerravon]

hmmm, could i just ask god to erase me from existance? eternity just seems like a long time? im sure after like a billion years id get pretty bored wherever im at. and im not a big fan of torment, not only would i be suffering, but id be watching all my friends suffer as well. that would suck

Exactly. So to avoid the drastic alternative of being erased from existence and collapsing the universe, what alternative is there but to create new earth-like universes for you to be inserted into?