Hell-Believers

[GURSIKH]

It appears to me that those who believe in hell are prone to the most harsh of actions. Looking at Christians in the past and Muslims in the present it seems obvious to me that religious adherents who accept the literal existence of hell for non-believers are the most malicious in their views towards others.
Despite the warm smiles they give and enthusiastic handshakes they believe that non believers go to hell. You never see them have sorrow or regret about this. They just accept it like a known fact.
Such theological concepts appear to create desensitization of torture, agony and death. The primary 2 religions who have spent centuries pillaging and plundering are Christianity and Islam. Now it is not the religion itself but just 1 minor aspect of it which is taught to the general population of adherents and that is hell. With hell neither religion would require conversion as there would be no need for it and neither would have the necessity to kill in order to establish religious rulership of any kind.
Hell does not prevent evil from being done by offering a concept of divine retribution. The most evil acts done have been those that believe in hell.

The very concept of hell is used as a control mechanism and brings forth barbarism from people only to hath it spread. This of course can be validated through all of history and crawl itself up the ladder of occurrences to the present.
I have also been informed of many Catholics removal of a fiery inferno from their doctrine which brings great joy to me oddly. Ahmadis do not even believe in a eternal hell and only view it as a truly just place for the wicked to enter and be purged of sins.
Sadly these things are trying to be stamped out from fundamentalists as to replace the choking grip of fear they use as a form to maintain followers with a chain of ignorant tranquility by avoiding the very espousings of their books. This also leads me to believe the belief in hell creates ignorance as Abrahamic faiths are decreasing in populatory girth.

As recent Gallup polls have suggested American adherence to be around 78% and can vary from 75% and having dealt with the others first hand I can validate this with a testimony of profound candour and veracity​

Abrahmic HELL , the most pathetic concept ,to terrorise Humans and limit free thinking .

 

[captainbryce]

Hell (as in the traditional teaching of it) is an EVIL doctrine and anyone who believes in it is therefore "seduced by evil" in my opinion.

 

[Sha'irullah]

Abrahmic HELL , the most pathetic concept ,to terrorise Humans and limit free thinking .

The concept is not what I find pathetic, but the believers. The mere belief in hell espouses auto-stupidity on the individual which is what I fear is occurring. I have such individuals like this in my family and their surprising amount of stupidity (not ignorance) is exceedingly baffling.

When the concept of Hell is accepted fully by the individual it seems to just bring about an overall negative impact which can be best examined in the behavior of conservative minded individuals in the US.

 

[GURSIKH]

The concept is not what I find pathetic, but the believers. The mere belief in hell espouses auto-stupidity on the individual which is what I fear is occurring. I have such individuals like this in my family and their surprising amount of stupidity (not ignorance) is exceedingly baffling.

When the concept of Hell is accepted fully by the individual it seems to just bring about an overall negative impact which can be best examined in the behavior of conservative minded individuals in the US.

here in India such stubborn are very few , but i encountered many on internet

 

[satori8]

It has always seemed wrong that God would send people to hell for not believing a certain way.

The Jewish people hardly spoke on the afterlife. I wonder why the afterlife became important in the New Testament.

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

It has always seemed wrong that God would send people to hell for not believing a certain way.

The Jewish people hardly spoke on the afterlife. I wonder why the afterlife became important in the New Testament.

They saw that there was money to be made by encouraging belief in an afterlife.

 

[Sha'irullah]

It has always seemed wrong that God would send people to hell for not believing a certain way.

The Jewish people hardly spoke on the afterlife. I wonder why the afterlife became important in the New Testament.

It was mostly a marketing strategy

 

[ZooGirl02]

If there is no Hell then where do those who die mortally sinful guilt on their soul go after they have died? If someone commits genocide and they die without repenting do you honestly think they are going to go to Heaven? Personally I don't know if they will go to Heaven or not because I cannot judge the state of their soul but I will say that those who die in a state of mortal do go to Hell. That is what I believe. Everyone is, of course, free to disbelieve in this but I honestly believe that my belief is right and disbelief in Hell is wrong. But that's my opinion.

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

If there is no Hell then where do those who die mortally sinful guilt on their soul go after they have died? If someone commits genocide and they die without repenting do you honestly think they are going to go to Heaven? Personally I don't know if they will go to Heaven or not because I cannot judge the state of their soul but I will say that those who die in a state of mortal do go to Hell. That is what I believe. Everyone is, of course, free to disbelieve in this but I honestly believe that my belief is right and disbelief in Hell is wrong. But that's my opinion.

Well it seems to be the way that we get closure. They'll get theirs eventually, and so we hope when they die that there is some judgement because it would seem unfair if there wasn't.

After the Zimmerman case people where posting how God will be the final judge, these were people who felt that the system had failed and so they turn to a divine "justice." It seems unfair for him to get away so something has to get him. That to me seems to be the function of hell a dash of sadism.

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

If there is no Hell then where do those who die mortally sinful guilt on their soul go after they have died? If someone commits genocide and they die without repenting do you honestly think they are going to go to Heaven? Personally I don't know if they will go to Heaven or not because I cannot judge the state of their soul but I will say that those who die in a state of mortal do go to Hell. That is what I believe. Everyone is, of course, free to disbelieve in this but I honestly believe that my belief is right and disbelief in Hell is wrong. But that's my opinion.

Who says anyone has to go anywhere?

 

[Astravalon]

Well it seems to be the way that we get closure. They'll get theirs eventually, and so we hope when they die that there is some judgement because it would seem unfair if there wasn't.

After the Zimmerman case people where posting how God will be the final judge, these were people who felt that the system had failed and so they turn to a divine "justice." It seems unfair for him to get away so something has to get him. That to me seems to be the function of hell a dash of sadism.

This. ^^ I see a similar thing at work in some versions of reincarnation as well.

I think there's a belief -- and it rather makes sense to me -- that heaven and hell are the same place. What makes it heavenly or hellish depends on those residing there rather than on anything being done to them (not unlike how things work on this here earthly plane, actually). I could see how Divine Love might seem painful to those not quite ready for it, just as it is pleasurable for those who are. "The same sun that melts wax hardens clay" and all that jazz. The more resistance one has going into it, the more of a jolt it might be for them.

Not only that, but, depending on how much one's misbehavior on earth was influenced by some crazy biochemical cocktails generated by their physical body, they could be a whole different person once freed from that physical body. So someone who behaves like a real creep while in their earthly body, once they're relieved of that body, just might snap out of it, because it was due to their body's physiological issues. Low serotonin (or worse) isn't going to have an influence on one's behavior once the earth-suit's been retired. This is one reason (there are others but not relevant to this thread) why I don't see any sense hand-wringing over what (formerly) nefarious characters I'll be rubbing elbows with in paradise, because it's going to be a whole 'nother ballgame at that point anyway. They will have changed, and/or I will have changed, and/or the environment will have changed (and all for the better, imo).