Helping the hepless is the American way

[factseeker88]

It's hard to believe that civilized Americans would send starving refugee children back to the nightmare's they fled from. without at least feeding them or allowing them to use their rest rooms. What does it take to melt the radical Right's cold, cold heart?



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"This moment is your life." Omar Khayyam.......

"Our belief or disbelief of a thing does not alter the nature of things” Tillotson

 

[Dirty Penguin]

It's hard to believe that civilized Americans would send starving refugee children back to the nightmare's they fled from. without at least feeding them or allowing them to use their rest rooms. What does it take to melt the radical Right's cold, cold heart?



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"This moment is your life." Omar Khayyam.......

"Our belief or disbelief of a thing does not alter the nature of things” Tillotson

Why would Americans change their nature now...They did it with the Chinese, the Japanese, the Irish the Catholics and the Blacks......:sad:

 

[Twilight Hue]

Refugees? Are you serious?

Start using the real term. ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Not refugees by a long shot.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Refugees? Are you serious?

Start using the real term. ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Not refugees by a long shot.

No refugees is exactly what they are.

The law signed by George W. Bush back in 2008 basically classifies them as such. And since the law is on the books and classifies them as such then they're not simply "illegal aliens" crossing the border. The law requires that they be given due process. Considering the situation in which they're fleeing they are indeed refugees. So now what we see is an administration following a law handed down to them by the previous administration.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

No. The American way is to **** on helpless people and look the other way in other words NIMBY, that is how Americans think.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Refugees? Are you serious?

Start using the real term. ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Let's try a different word: Children.

 

[columbus]

It's hard to believe that civilized Americans would send starving refugee children back to the nightmare's they fled from. without at least feeding them or allowing them to use their rest rooms. What does it take to melt the radical Right's cold, cold heart?



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"This moment is your life." Omar Khayyam.......

"Our belief or disbelief of a thing does not alter the nature of things” Tillotson

When did helping the helpless become the "American way"?

That is the antithesis of laissez faire capitalism. You sound like a communist.

Tom

 

[CynthiaCypher]

When did helping the helpless become the "American way"?

That is the antithesis of laissez faire capitalism. You sound like a communist.

Tom

WWARD? What Would Ayn Rand Do?

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Americans tend to be a bunch of greedy and selfish racist dicks. They are just plain awful when it comes to doing the right thing. If they had a heart they would be petitioning the government to adopt these children. But all they see is that these children are brown and they hate brown.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free..."

...we could use some cheap labor to treat as second-class citizens.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Americans tend to be a bunch of greedy and selfish racist dicks. They are just plain awful when it comes to doing the right thing. If they had a heart they would be petitioning the government to adopt these children. But all they see is that these children are brown and they hate brown.

What if this becomes a deluge of children. This "immigration" is obviously designed and intentional. The right thing is to tell Mexico to get their act together in thier own country and to stop this nonsense and pursue legal channels. It's not the USAs fault. It's Mexico, and their inability to handle their own affairs.

Try sending childern across the border into Canada and see how far it gets. Mexico should be no different than the northern border.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

What if this becomes a deluge of children.

If they're here simply because they up and came across the border and they tried to skirt immigration intentionally then they need to be processed and returned back to their country. But these kids made the trek from their country through Mexico because the situation in their country is horrible. These kids and adults crossing the border actually wanted to be picked up by border patrol.

This "immigration" is obviously designed and intentional.

I really need you to take off your tin-foil hat and change the TV from Fox and call up a different website other than the one's you're getting your misinformation from....because statements like this show just how uninformed you are. No one "designed" this. If you believe this to be true then please show us the verifiable evidence of it.

The right thing is to tell Mexico to get their act together in thier own country and to stop this nonsense and pursue legal channels.

What does Mexico have to do with this. These kids aren't Mexican.

It's not the USAs fault. It's Mexico, and their inability to handle their own affairs.

Again, what does this have to do with Mexico. These kids fleeing their country that's run by drug dealers and gangs and other atrocities has nothing to do with Mexico.

Try sending childern across the border into Canada and see how far it gets. Mexico should be no different than the northern border.

What's with you and blaming this humanitarian crisis of children and adults fleeing "Central America" have to do with Mexico....

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What if this becomes a deluge of children. This "immigration" is obviously designed and intentional. The right thing is to tell Mexico to get their act together in thier own country and to stop this nonsense and pursue legal channels. It's not the USAs fault. It's Mexico, and their inability to handle their own affairs.

Try sending childern across the border into Canada and see how far it gets. Mexico should be no different than the northern border.

Actually, because America fuels the drug markets, much of the blame does fall on our government. The "war on drugs" has saw nothing but an increase in drug use, which created a growing market, which has been filled by violent drug cartels.
The world Mexicans are escaping, one of dire poverty, widespread illiteracy, rampant violence, and no-jobs-no-hope-no-future, is one that is so bad that we ourselves would demand our neighboring countries open their borders and help us out if we ever got anywhere close to being that bad. There is a reason that there are long standing travel advisories warning travelers about the potential risks of traveling to a place that is more under gang rule than government rule.
Yes, and send them to Canada. The Canadian government more warmly welcomes children than ours does.
Helping parents without immigration status get their children into school | CLEO (Community Legal Education Ontario / Éducation juridique communautaire Ontario)

In Ontario, children have the right to attend school even if they or their parents do not have immigration status in Canada.
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It is against the law for a school to refuse to admit a child who is under 18 years of age only because the child or the child’s parent or guardian is in Canada without immigration status.
The Education Act says:
A person who is otherwise entitled to be admitted to a school and who is less than eighteen years of age shall not be refused admission because the person or the person’s parent or guardian is unlawfully in Canada. (Section 49.1)
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The Ministry of Education has told school boards across the province that they cannot refuse to admit children only because their parents do not have immigration papers.
Schools should not refuse to admit children only because their parents do not have:

• proof of immigration status or proof that they have applied for status
• a work permit or social insurance number
• Ontario Health Insurance Program (OHIP) coverage.

There are more details about this on the Ministry of Education website in Policy/Program Memorandum No. 136 at Policy/Program Memorandum No.*136.
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In Canada, the provinces have the power to make laws about education. But the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act also confirms children's right to go to school:
Every minor child in Canada, other than a child of a temporary resident not authorized to work or study, is authorized to study at the pre-school, primary or secondary level. (Subsection 30 (2))
This makes it clear that, for example, a child under 18 years of age who is claiming refugee status in Canada, or who has no status in Canada, does not need a study permit from Citizenship and Immigration Canada to go to school.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

I think the whole controversy is that these children are brown.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

I think the whole controversy is that these children are brown.

Yeah...back in the day it use to be the Irish...but I wonder if Ireland had a mass exodus to the US if we (some of these hateful bigots here in the US)...would feel the same toward them. What is Canadians were trying to flee their country because of a Humanitarian crisis...would these people feel the same way. I'm not too sure they would......

 

[Phil25]

Americans tend to be a bunch of greedy and selfish racist dicks. They are just plain awful when it comes to doing the right thing. If they had a heart they would be petitioning the government to adopt these children. But all they see is that these children are brown and they hate brown.

Obama is not a White exactly. He was elected 2 times.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Mexico is the primary border used. Should of worded it better. Specifically Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala according to what I've read about the situation.

The thing is, by law, there will be an opportunity to claim asylum and givin a proper hearing in immigration court. Still, I agree to expedite the childern to Canada would be a good, no.... an excellent move. The question lies in why isn't that being done? Why the US is the central player in all this eludes me. From what some folks are saying , the US is the problem maker. Not the solution to problems in this age.

Canada should make an offer to take them in. Imo.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

The thing is, by law, there will be an opportunity to claim asylum and givin a proper hearing in immigration court.

But I fail to see how this is a bad thing. That Bush law is what the administration is following.. I know the previous administration didn't foresee the amount of people fleeing their country to the US would happen. They were responding to a different crisis back then which prompted the law we now have. We should follow the law. The Obama administration is asking for additional funding to provide more border security and more judges to help expedite the due process. Unfortunately we now have political leaders both the left and the right wanting to pass a law to abolish some or all of that 2008 law.

 

[LuisDantas]

When exactly have the USA encouraged immigrants? Back in the 18th century?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Obama is not a White exactly. He was elected 2 times.

Electing a biracial president hardly cleanses a nation of racism. When I start seeing more non-whites at the college level and higher ranks of employment, then we might be able to have a serious discussion about how far our country has come in terms of ending racism. Until then, whites will maintain a firm majority for the foreseeable future.

Mexico is the primary border used. Should of worded it better. Specifically Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala according to what I've read about the situation.

The thing is, by law, there will be an opportunity to claim asylum and givin a proper hearing in immigration court. Still, I agree to expedite the childern to Canada would be a good, no.... an excellent move. The question lies in why isn't that being done? Why the US is the central player in all this eludes me. From what some folks are saying , the US is the problem maker. Not the solution to problems in this age.

Canada should make an offer to take them in. Imo.

What's wrong with our country being a good neighbor? Everyone wants to claim America is a "Christian society," but hardly anyone is willing to prove it. Children have zero say-so in their situations and are powerless to do anything about it. Why should we treat and define them as criminals?