sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
How so?Well that was off topic.
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angellous_evangellous
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It didn't addess dopp's response to your post. It wasn't even in the same universe.
He didn't interpret the text, so you have no basis for asserting that his understanding of the text doesn't fit with rest of the Bible.
And your claim that your interpretation is done in light of the whole Bible is merely a claim to authority, and it's empty. If you're misinterpreting it, you're misinterpreting it.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
See post #72 for his interpretation.
I have a whole post that can back up my claim. Perhaps you could address my points in that thread.
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
Ah, you weren't quoting #72.
I see. I don't know if I'll address your points... for me it's a simple reading issue and one doesn't need a complex hermeneutical argument or debate.
In other words, if you can't understand the text from my post and dopp's, there's no hope for further discussion.
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
The issue flowed from there.
I see. You're correct, end of discussion. Thanks Daddy.
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
See?? No harm, no foul.
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
Wannabe Yogi
Well-Known Member
-Why do old Baptist Ministers ware white belts and shoes after Labor Day ?
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
Maybe you're confusing those guys with Mark Twain?
Wannabe Yogi
Well-Known Member
I will give you that one :bow: now....
Why don't Southern Baptists make love standing up ?
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
Cuz it might lead to dancing.
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
There ya go. I haven't heard that in a good long while.
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
Me neither. My background is AoG, and that joke got a lot of mileage there.
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
I'm not sure I even understand what the discussion would be. The text says what it says. I have no interest in debating his theology.
I don't do theology.
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
doppelgänger;2380376 said:
That's about where I am.
Well, dopp. You're a theologian who doesn't theologize. But you philosophize theology.
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
The interesting thing about Romans 1-2 is that the primary, if not the only, scripture from the NT cited to condemn homosexuality is that very same list at the end of Romans 1. In context, what Paul is saying is that if you claim that "God" will judge any of those activities as sin or profess to condemn people who do any of those things, when in fact, because of the "riches" of God's kindness and forebearance they will not be judged - then the only person who is going to be judged is YOU, for showing contempt for those riches.
In addition, such hypocrites bring shame and suspicion on "God" and the gospel. Of course, the world is full of real examples of this. How many homophobic, "Christians" turn out to be closeted homosexuals? It makes a mockery of the faith, and it negates "God's" grace in their lives because they cannot forgive themselves. In other words, quite apart from a 'supernatural' interpretation of judgment, what Paul is stating here is very much psychologically true.
That's what Paul is saying, in context, about these "riches."
Frank Merton
Active Member
I guess most Christians are hypocrites, but then so are the rest of us. All this tells me is that Christians have no claim on being better.
The essence of hypocrisy is saying one thing and doing another. Pertinent to your comments about jugmentalism, all religions preach that we should not be judgmental, but they all are. An interesting question is whether this is in spite of the religion or because of it.
The essence of hypocrisy is saying one thing and doing another. Pertinent to your comments about jugmentalism, all religions preach that we should not be judgmental, but they all are. An interesting question is whether this is in spite of the religion or because of it.
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
It's in spite of the teachings, but because of the religions supposedly based on them.