Heterosexual sins, adultery, fornication, etc.

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

What is the dangers of being gay?

The supposed heteros who are remarkably insecure.

 

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The supposed heteros who are remarkably insecure.

We may secure about ourselves, but we don't want our children overwhelmed with propaganda, Satanic whispering, and dark magic, so to leave their nature early and become intoxicated under Iblis. So I will teach my future (yet to be born) children, it's a disgusting thing in God's eyes, and will bring you to hell early in life and it will be hard to change if you believe it's natural and to never embrace it.

God rewards wisdom at maturity to good doers per Quran. This shows children are accounted for their deeds, states, intentions, despite Muslims saying children deeds are not accounted for the Quran shows the opposite. I am going to teach him, society is debauched and not to be trusted, but rather God's guidance is to be trusted.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

The problem is that the LGBT movement wants to shove their dogma down your throat in all aspects of society.

I find certain groups fixate on people shoving things down their throats.

 

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I find certain groups fixate on people shoving things down their throats.

We both do, truth and power is a struggle between different forces. Secular society said they be religion neutral, they lied. They are ruled by debauched pagans in secret.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

We may secure about ourselves, but we don't want our children overwhelmed with propaganda, Satanic whispering, and dark magic, so to leave their nature early and become intoxicated under Iblis. So I will teach my future (yet to be born) children, it's a disgusting thing in God's eyes, and will bring you to hell early in life and it will be hard to change if you believe it's natural and to never embrace it.

God rewards wisdom at maturity to good doers per Quran. This shows children are accounted for their deeds, states, intentions, despite Muslims saying children deeds are not accounted for the Quran shows the opposite. I am going to teach him, society is debauched and not to be trusted, but rather God's guidance is to be trusted.

See you in Hell!

 

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See you in Hell!

Maybe, who knows, I might become good one day. Inshallah.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

You can't, they can only remind you and show what you deep inside know. Same with Quran and Ahlulbayt (a), they remind, can't create light and virtue.

My point is that I can’t take anyone seriously if they think consenting relationships are like the worst things you could do. I can’t trust scripture regarding sin when genocide is okay but eating at Red Lobster is an abomination.

 

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My point is that I can’t take anyone seriously if they think consenting relationships are like the worst things you could do. I can’t trust scripture regarding sin when genocide is okay but eating at Red Lobster is an abomination.

I know your viewpoint, but, it's as I said. If they reminded and stick to their nature, they will become fortified. I am going to teach my (future yet to be born) children to fortify themselves against Iblis, his forces, and dark magic early.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

We may secure about ourselves, but we don't want our children overwhelmed with propaganda, Satanic whispering, and dark magic, so to leave their nature early and become intoxicated under Iblis. So I will teach my future (yet to be born) children, it's a disgusting thing in God's eyes, and will bring you to hell early in life and it will be hard to change if you believe it's natural and to never embrace it.

God rewards wisdom at maturity to good doers per Quran. This shows children are accounted for their deeds, states, intentions, despite Muslims saying children deeds are not accounted for the Quran shows the opposite. I am going to teach him, society is debauched and not to be trusted, but rather God's guidance is to be trusted.

If I had kids, I would not want them taught by paranoid religious people insecure and objectively wrong about certain populations.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I could quote a few OT verses, but then I’d be labeled as calling for the death of all heterosexual persons. Lol


Sin is sin. There is a human tendency to try to make the sin we have committed or are more likely to commit seem less bad. Many have tried to use a legalistic approach to justify sexual sin as long as they are not married.

End of the day God makes His laws and He will enforce them. To remove any conduction I like the following fThe Family: “We further declare that God has commanded that the sacred powers of procreation are to be employed only between man and woman, lawfully wedded as husband and wife.”

Great, then let God judge them and deal with them and leave them alone.

Thankfully, we don't base our laws on unevidenced religious beliefs.

 

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If I had kids, I would not want them taught by paranoid religious people insecure and objectively wrong about certain populations.

Those who teach their kids truth will be rewarded as parents. Those who teach them falsehood for their low caprice will go to hell.

At the end God is the Guardian, and I will delegate them to find God's guidance and not just trust me.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Those who teach their kids truth will be rewarded as parents. Those who teach them falsehood for their low caprice will to hell.

At the end God is the Guardian, and I will delegate them to find God's guidance and not just trust me.

Well, I do God differently. So it works differently for us both in both directions.

 

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Well, I do God differently. So it works differently for us both in both directions.

Up to you. No force in religion, the punishment and reward is unseen in this world and will only be seen fully on day of judgment.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Up to you. No force in religion, the punishment and reward is unseen in this world and will only be seen fully on day of judgment.

That is what you believe. I do it differently.

 

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That is what you believe. I do it differently.

Different is overrated. Being as much as like Mohammad, Ali, Fatima, Hassan, Hussain and the 9 Leaders from his offspring, that's where all the seeing glory, states of honor, and unseen pleasures is found.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Also @Viker,

If you believe in God then you should know that God sent multiple prophets in multiple locations over multiple generations. God provided basic information to different parts of the world via different messengers but many information got distorted over the years due to cultural diffusions, authoritarian influence, lack of preservative method etc.
So, the information is out there but it is scattered among multiple religions. In my opinion any single religion shouldn't claim they have it all and that we should disregard all other religions. If you do your research and sort through different dogmas then you may get a better picture. But of course it is not an easy task because a lot of corruption have sneaked in.

However, even though the path is laid out via different religion - one doesn't need to be a believer to stay on that path. For most things we don't even need a doctrine to tell us what is right or wrong - we are also born with basic awareness! Our intuition can also guide us.
When we deviate from the intended path - almost in every scenario we all know what we are doing. You can struggle with it and try to refrain or you can deny it feels wrong and try to convince yourselves it is all natural! You can rationalize and try to convince yourself you have no control over it and you are not hurting anyone. A prostitute knows what she is doing is wrong, a thief knows what he is doing is wrong but they all rationalize their reasonings and convince themselves that they have no choice.

If you want to try to find out whether something is right or wrong - you should look at the picture with all the examples and not just the better ones. Of course a heart surgeon saves lives everyday but a gay priest with access to kids can be ruining 30-40 kids lives by taking advantage of them and abusing them! 30-40 little boys could be growing up in shame and in some instances turned into gay individuals by the priest because they had trust in him, they thought he was a holy man and he took advantage of that trust!
A prison can be a more dangerous place for the non-violent heterosexuals who cannot defend themselves against forceful gay advances of dangerous inmates. You can separate the men and women but can you separate gay and hetero? It would be too expensive for the prison system to separate everyone!

Um, priests who molest children aren't gay - they're PEDOPHILES. You've made the classic mistake of confusing homosexuality with pedophilia. So there's your first problem.

You don't have to find the extreme example to see the damage - you can also visit some gay club in bigger cities and get an idea why the public display of certain behavior can be confusing for a child's mental, emotional and social development even in a gay friendly society. Now think about the damage it can cause in a 3rd world society!

Instead of imagining and thinking about it, how about you give us some actual examples.

But forget all that - let me ask you this....
If a gay person could go back in time - would he/she want his/her parents to be gay?
If his parents were gay then it would be highly likely that - he won't be born and thus he won't exist!

My cousin is gay. She has a daughter. So there goes that one.

Was this your attempt to demonstrate that homosexuality is immoral? I don't see it.

Similarly hypothetically speaking - maybe someone out there didn't exist due to his choices? Think about that for a moment!
Why is it okay for you to be gay but not your mother when she conceived you?

Huh?

Billions of years ago - God created all human souls at the same time.

Human beings have not existed for billions of years.

The total number of human souls ever born so far is about 117 billions. We don't know how many human souls are still out there waiting in some sort of God's depository. When all the souls have their turn to come to the world - we will have a Judgment day!

This is just preaching.

How many gay people are conceiving in today's world and thus facilitating in the natural progression of God's plan? No one is asking you to have 10 kids but everyone should stay on a path that helps the progression of God's plan so all of us and our ancestors and predecessors can go back to God's kingdom and face God on the "Judgment day".

When you can demonstrate that existence of any god(s) whatsoever, please let us all know.

You may not believe in God and you may not believe in the Judgment day. In that case the whole thing may sound silly to you!

Yep. And judgy.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Different is overrated. Being as much as like Mohammad, Ali, Fatima, Hassan, Hussain and the 9 Leaders from his offspring, that's where all the seeing glory, states of honor, and unseen pleasures is found.

I still believe differently.

 

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I still believe differently.

Noted, and repeated by you for no reason.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Noted, and repeated by you for no reason.

There can be given no reason for faith. You either have one or another. The same with me.

 

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There can be given no reason for faith. You either have one or another. The same with me.

In hadiths of Ahlulbayt (a) it's taught reason and religion go together, when Adam (a) was told to choose between religion and reason, he picked reason, and when asked why by Gabriel (a) and God wanted to teach Gabriel (a) through Adam (a), he said reason contains the latter while religion without reason, leads distance to God.

The Quran is written in a way, that's not overexplicit, but not too subtle, between that, in a way that leads to insights through reflections.

Everything in it is proven by itself, and it's insights reflected within the soul and signs in self as well signs outwardly, and signs in the sky/heaven/light reality, will bring someone to guidance.

A religion that can't be proven by reason is a false religion per my view.