Heterosexual sins, adultery, fornication, etc.

[mikkel_the_dane]

In hadiths of Ahlulbayt (a) it's taught reason and religion go together, when Adam (a) was told to choose be and where youtween religion and reason, he picked reason, and when asked why by Gabriel (a) and God wanted to teach Gabriel (a) through Adam (a), he said reason contains the latter while religion without reason, leads distance to God.

The Quran is written in a way, that's not overexplicit, but not too subtle, between that, in a way that leads to insights through reflections.

Everything in it is proven by itself, and it's insights reflected within the soul and signs in self as well signs outwardly, and signs in the sky/heaven/light reality, will bring someone to guidance.

A religion that can't be proven by reason is a false religion per my view.

Yeah, I know. The joke is that this reason is in you as your view and my understanding of the limits of reason is me. That is what makes it individual, that you take yours as the objective standard and I treat us as subjectively different. I get that and you get it subjectively differently to the point that your reason is God's reason, otherwise it couldn't be objective.

 

[Link]

Yeah, I know. The joke is that this reason is in you as your view and my understanding of the limits of reason is me. That is what makes it individual, that you take yours as the objective standard and I treat us as subjectively different. I get that and you get it subjectively differently to the point that your reason is God's reason, otherwise it couldn't be objective.

Seems the limit is in you. You've chosen to limit reason.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Seems the limit is in you. You've chosen to limit reason.

Yeah, and you have chosen to believe your reason is objective. But it is not, because other humans do it differently. That is the falsification of your belief as objective.

 

[Link]

Yeah, and you have chosen to believe your reason is objective. But it is not, because other humans do it differently. That is the falsification of your belief as objective.

Maybe other humans chosen to limit it like you. Perhaps they needed to, since falsehood can't be verified by reason.

The people following truth from their Lord can't be compared to people following falsehoods from idols. There is no equating the two.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Maybe other humans chosen to limit it like you. Perhaps they needed to, since falsehood can't be verified by reason.

The people following truth from their Lord can't be compared to people following falsehoods from idols. There is no equating the two.

That is in you as with your cognition. As long as you don't get that, but treat your cognition as in effect not yours, we will do it differently.

 

[Link]

That is in you as with your cognition. As long as you don't get that, but treat your cognition as in effect not yours, we will do it differently.

Different overrated. I choose to like how God wants me to be, and he has guided me into many ways and insights, and upon his guidance and rope do I rely on.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Those who teach their kids truth will be rewarded as parents. Those who teach them falsehood for their low caprice will go to hell.

At the end God is the Guardian, and I will delegate them to find God's guidance and not just trust me.

But the diatribes against the LGBTQ community are objectively wrong.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Different overrated. I choose to like how God wants me to be, and he has guided me into many ways and insights, and upon his guidance and rope do I rely on.

Yes, you choose!!! That is the point.

 

[Link]

Yes, you choose!!! That is the point.

That's not your point. I submit to his judgment even if I appear ugly therein and shamed and choose not to rebel and run away putting God behind back and running from his light as if his light will harm me as if fleeing from a lion, like the people of falsehood.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

But the diatribes against the LGBTQ community are objectively wrong.

Well, all morality is objectively wrong, because it is not objective.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

That's not your point. I submit and choose not to rebel and run away putting God behind back and running from his light as if his light fleeing from a lion, like the people of falsehood.

That is you and in you. I do it differently.

 

[Link]

That is you and in you. I do it differently.

We know, light and darkness can't be compared.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

We know, light and darkness can't be compared.

In your thinking as you do light and dark. There is no we in that.

 

[Link]

In your thinking as you do light and dark. There is no we in that.

God and me, know the darkness and light is not the same, and my knowledge about that is from God and he is with me.

 

[Link]

But the diatribes against the LGBTQ community are objectively wrong.

People have to assess the proofs and decide. Schools teaching one way over the other without proofs but forcing it, and not presenting both sides and both arguments, are not keeping true to secularism but are favoring debauched sorcerers religion over that of others.

It shouldn't be preached and certainly not to kids.

 

[Viker]

but a gay priest with access to kids can be ruining 30-40 kids lives by taking advantage of them and abusing them! 30-40 little boys could be growing up in shame and in some instances turned into gay individuals by the priest because they had trust in him, they thought he was a holy man and he took advantage of that trust!
A prison can be a more dangerous place for the non-violent heterosexuals who cannot defend themselves against forceful gay advances of dangerous inmates. You can separate the men and women but can you separate gay and hetero? It would be too expensive for the prison system to separate everyone

Rape and pedophilia are not homosexuality.

You don't have to find the extreme example to see the damage - you can also visit some gay club in bigger cities and get an idea why the public display of certain behavior can be confusing for a child's mental, emotional and social development even in a gay friendly society. Now think about the damage it can cause in a 3rd world society

You're imagining things here. How could children know or be exposed to what happens in a night club?

You may not believe in God and you may not believe in the Judgment day. In that case the whole thing may sound silly to you!

You're on to something here. Kudos.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

God and me, know the darkness and light is not the same, and my knowledge about that is from God and he is with me.

Yeah, that is you. I do it differently, as God and I. So we do it similarly, God and 1st person individually, yet you are special, because all other cases are wrong according to you being right. But that is precisely the point. We are all different I and you.

 

[Link]

Yeah, that is you. I do it differently, as God and I. So we do it similarly, God and 1st person individually, yet you are special, because all other cases are wrong according to you being right. But that is precisely the point. We are all different I and you.

You repeat a lot of meaningless speech. The blind and seeing are not alike. Nor the deaf and hearing. Nor the living and dead.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

You repeat a lot of meaningless speech. The blind and seeing are not alike. Nor the deaf and hearing. Nor the living and dead.

Yeah, but from there doesn't follow that it applies to us, because we see differently, hear differently and are individually alive. So if I was blind, deaf and dead, you would have a point, but that is not the case.

 

[Link]

Yeah, but from there doesn't follow that it applies to us, because we see differently, hear differently and are individually alive. So if I was blind, deaf and dead, you would have a point, but that is not the case.

Devils and Angels not the same, the straight path leads to God, deviating paths away. The sky of Mohammad (s) can't be compared to the Devil Worshippers place, they are in a far far place from God.

Devils are from the hearing far removed, and their conjecture of speech can't be compared to the eloquent truthful guiding words of light of the family of the revelation.

Those clinging to God's Name, rope, and handhold, are not like those falling and who's hearts hate the true remembrance of God.